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NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 09:02
by Vegascrazy
Having flown out standby on a friend’s staff travel concessions our return flight followed nine days of rest & relaxation in San Diego & Palm Springs. The issue with standby travel is that it comes with stress, particularly if there is doubt as to whether or not you’ll actually make it on to the flight! For those of you who read my outbound trip report we were fortunate enough to get business class on the trans-Atlantic sector (LHR-ORD) but then, for the four hour ORD-SNA leg, we were each squeezed into the middle of rows of three at the back of economy.

The main thing was we got there but not being in ‘full control’ of our journey was just an experience we didn’t relish! I should add that flying ‘non-rev’ is not free, you still pay the non-rev cost which varies on AA between Y, J & F. The sponsoring employee gets debited via payslip when travel is complete.

Half way through our stay our friend in AA rang to say the passenger loads the following Saturday were looking decidedly ‘cosy’, especially on the internal sector options, namely PSP-ORD or PSP-DFW. He explained that our best bet would be to get ourselves to LAX for a midday flight and then hope that we get on to a flight to JFK and then fly JFK-LHR that night. At that point I took action and started researching options to pay in full for a flight back! Business Class was out of the question, coming in at several £k each but Air New Zealand were offering what we thought was a great rate for a single fare LAX-LHR in Premium Economy, although this would entail us flying on the Saturday instead of the originally planned Friday. Since it was $400 less to fly on the Saturday as opposed to the Friday (and incidentally $380 less than VS PE on both days!) we decided to book ANZ there and then, especially as we knew ANZ offered their new Premium Economy ‘Space Seats’ on this service!

So flights were booked and e-tickets issued. As far as seat requests went there was unsurprisingly little choice but, after extensive research, plumped for 28A&B. Some reviews suggest that the centre seats are better for couples but having spent a good couple of hours reading many reviews I felt that the seats at the sides were better.

So Saturday morning arrived and we set off in the car around 10:30 for the 120 miles drive along the I10 from Palm Springs to LAX. We’ve done this drive many times and on this occasion there were no holdups whatsoever and we arrived at Hertz car rental return in less than two hours. Car dropped and on to the courtesy bus and, as we were the only people on the bus, we were deposited straight to T2 outside the Air New Zealand area which is just to the right of the VS check-in area. There were a few people camped out in line at the VS area which was not yet open given that the VS8 doesn’t depart LAX until an hour & a half after the ANZ flight.

ANZ have one check-in area for Economy and another for Business Class / Premium Economy. There was no queue at the Business/PE check-in and we were seen straight away and our home printed paper boarding passes replaced with ‘proper’ ones. Cases tagged and then returned to us, or rather to a porter who was one of several hovering at the ANZ premium check-in area, who then carted our cases over to the TSA area just over the way . The lady at TSA asked if our cases were unlocked to which we replied yes and she thanked us. We’ve never bothered with one of those special TSA locks incidentally, just don’t see the point.

Onward and upward we presented ourselves for the next screening at the foot of the escalators up to security using the premium class queue which, on examination of our boarding passes by the girl organising the queuing, we were permitted to use. There was no queue at all at the x-rays which was surprising as normally this area at LAX T2 is heaving so we hastily removed belts, watches, rings, shoes, coins before going through. No alarms sounded for us on this occasion and we were through quickly. Lots of chairs and benches now on the other side which makes it easy for ‘post security redressing’!
LAX T2 is just horrid, no other words for it. On our last few flights we’ve been fortunate enough to be flying VS UC meaning we had use of the Air New Zealand Lounge but on this occasion the delights of that lounge were out of bounds.

Thankfully, courtesy of our AMEX Platinum provided Priority Passes, we had the use of either the Air France or Air Canada lounges. Research confirmed that neither was particularly decent but out of the two the AC one was better, so we headed there. It was OK, nothing at all to write home about but at least a refuge from T2. Crudités and soup/salad were on offer along with spirits and wine & beer. We whiled away the next couple of hours here and saw our 777-300 come in from Auckland slightly ahead of schedule at 13:50.

Around 15:00 we decided to stroll downstairs and see what was occurring at the gate area, 23A. We knew we wouldn’t be boarding until at least 15:15 but fancied a change of scene. There weren’t many people milling about the ANZ gate area – perhaps around fifty, indeed there were lots more at the adjacent VS gate and then we remembered that many passengers would already be on the flight having travelled from Auckland. These pax are sent to a special holding room (which we would shortly see) where they have to fully clear US Immigration even though they are simply in transit – I guess no surprise there since, as we all know, there is no concept of a ‘transfer passenger’ in USA!

Pre-boarding began around 15:15. Now, I liked the way they did this - the staff at the gate podium were very assertive and stressed that everyone must stay seated and should not form a line during the pre-boarding process. Instead of the typical request for ‘families with young children who may need extra time to board to come forward’ they actually read out the surnames of families and invited them forward. Thus there was no free for all with every Tom, Dick or Harry deciding that their teenagers constituted toddlers! So all very civilised and done & dusted within a few minutes.

Next they simultaneously invited Business and Premium Economy passengers forward. Once through we went along quite a long corridor where, at the end on the right, was the special holding room (it looked like another gate room) for ANZ transit passengers. These passengers and us converged at the jetty entrance and we queued for 5 mins at this point to reach the aircraft door.

The crew at the door were very jovial, inspected our boarding passes and welcomed us on board by name, such a nice touch and takes nothing obviously to simply read your name from the boarding pass – ‘welcome on board Mr Watson, take a right and 28A is just along on your right – have a great flight with us’. Steve also got the same treatment as I suspect did every passenger regardless of cabin class!

Wow, first impressions of Air New Zealand’s Premium Economy cabin were positive to say the least. Not wanting to put VS down too much I have to say that the ANZ offering just blew us away from the moment we boarded to the moment we left. Hopefully the photos that follow go some way to painting a good visual of what we experienced:

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Masses of personal space, the beanbags by the way were a great addition - put them where you like!

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Your legroom essentially utilises the cavity on the left of the seat infront

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The WC's have wall mirrors of chandeliers or bookshelves!

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The short-rib beef was just delicious!

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Ample leg room

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Those huge wine glasses were regularly topped up (and very generously too!)


Flight time incidentally was to be 9 hours 40 which would get us back to LHR a whole hour ahead of schedule. We pushed back bang on 16:00 and were airborne a few minutes later.

In summary:

Legroom – extremely good, it almost felt like as much as we had in AA business class!

Seat – very comfortable, shell style so nobody in front reclining in to you. Laptop charging socket with multi-national socket, USB charging socket and video-in for watching your own films via the seat back screen. Bean bags were also provided as foot rests, weird but surprisingly effective! Ingenious design in that the seats are angled, ie. left hand pairs and right hand pairs face towards the window. Each seat in the centre pair is angled towards the aisle. Your feet stretch into empty space within the left hand area of the seat infront’s shell.

IFE - superb. Loads of films, great flight tracker and also used as a full ‘order what you fancy’ food/drink service outside of normal meal times
Service: Overall very professional and friendly. The Flight Service Manager especially I thought went beyond the call of duty when he asked us and subsequently each and every passenger within earshot if they needed a UK landing card and, regardless of answer, then went on to ask ‘is everything OK with your flight today’.

Amenity kit – pretty good, contained Clarins lip balm and moisturiser along with socks, eye mask, toothbrush and toothpaste. I’ll also add at this stage that a bottle of water and set of noise cancelling headphones was on every PE seat on boarding.

Meals – here’s the menu ‘word for word’:

Dinner
To begin:
Oak leaf lettuce, feta cheese, beets, sweet onions, black olive puree and balsamic dressing

Main Course:
Red wine braised beef short rib with potato confit, broccolini, cranberry relish and beef jus

Pan seared cod with asparagus, cherry tomoatoes and baby potatoes with saffron veloute

Poached chicken breast stuffed with roast garlic and porcini mascarpone, blue cheese polenta and creamed swiss chard

To finish:
Lemon crème fraiche mousse and seasonal fresh berries

Breakfast
Fruit, yoghurt and bakery
Fruit selection with yoghurt
Croissants with fruit conserve

From the stove:
Cheddar & chive scrambled egg with chicken and sun dried tomato sausage, herbed potato and tomato

Belgian waffles, strawberries in raspberry sauce and freshly whipped banana cream

Beverages:
A premium selection of fine New Zealand wines is available on your flight today. This selection, chosen by our panel of recognised wine consultants will be detailed by your flight attendants. A full selection of beer, spirits, soft drinks and hot beverages is available throughout the flight.

Snacks:
Help yourself from our range of snacks available for you to enjoy during your flight


We thought the meals were stunning, my short rib beef particularly was to die for! There was also a delicious smoothie served as part of breakfast, poured from a huge bottle into a glass, not pre-packed. We got quite chatty with the crew member serving our side (a friendly Scottish chap) and learned that the PE meal offering is identical to Business Class on ANZ. He added that in providing more premium meals they avoid the problem of choices running out as as overall they cater for a much larger number thus more overall stock carried more meaning that the probability of running out of a particular choice is less. As far as the scrambled egg goes, well I never knew it could be served up so well on a flight!

The meal service did not include a pre-dinner drinks run but instead what they did was serve the starter along with a drink and then clear the empty starter plates and serve the main course along with more drinks as a second service. The wine glasses were huge, those stemless ones. I commented on how nice they were and before I knew it was slipped four unused ones for taking home! As for the wines themselves, well say no more, I for one have rarely experienced a poor New Zealand wine! The Port was also excellent I hasten to add.

In chatting to him that UK based crews operate the sector between UK & USA and New Zealand based crews operate the leg between USA & New Zealand which explained why we didn’t hear a single Kiwi accent among the crew, whether flight attendants or flight deck!

Another point I feel is worth making is that the cabin temperature was kept on the cooler side of warm during the ‘lights off’ night period which I for one feel is what most people prefer. It’s so much nicer snuggling up to sleep under a blanket and feeling cosy rather than feeling all stuffy and stifling through the night.

Also the loos were fab, they had chandeliers and book shelves painted on to one wall such that you could see the reflection in the other and funky music played in the WC’s to add to the somewhat fancy atmosphere!

All in all this flight was superb, one of our best ever. We did not pay anything like a business class fare but honestly felt like we were flying business class. With the exception of not having a lie flat bed & not having access to the ANZ lounge, every other element we felt was on a par with a J product. What other PE cabins offer a seat config of 2-2-2 and offer such an amazingly comfortable seat? We also liked sharing the business class check-in at LAX and being called forward along with business class passengers when boarding.

We tend to fly via LAX a fair bit and, now with family in San Diego, are even more likely to do so. ANZ’s Premium Economy has to be a no brainer on this route when comparing against ANZ’s sole competitor, VS, on this route. I also looked ahead at future dates and it consistently comes in cheaper than VS too. No way would I pay more for a 3-3-3 PE config, less legroom and a less comfortable overall experience.

I am still a loyal VS fan, indeed I feel that the VS UC offering is probably still better than ANZ’s although I stand to be corrected as clearly haven’t sampled ANZ J class. I think it would take one hell of a lot though to beat the VS Clubhouse at LHR and the on-board bar!

This flight though in ANZ Premium Economy has seriously got us thinking about future travel and where our allegiances and indeed miles/cash spending priorities lie. Lots of food for thought but right now still a bit jet lagged to contemplate.

Thanks for reading
James

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 09:21
by slinky09
Eagerly awaited and very satisfyingly fulfilled.

From a sub-2 hr road trip to LAX ( y) ) to a brilliant on board experience - NZ certainly seem to have ridden themselves of the early new PE teething troubles (I believe they took one row out because legroom was actually dire), and it looks a real contender for when the pennies don't add up to UC.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 09:28
by Slipperman
Great TR. That PE does look impressive!

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 09:45
by DragonLady
James, thanks for the fantastic read. IMHO NZ is a great all- round product with consistently good food and wine offerings (in all their cabins) and genuinely helpful and customer focused crew. The new PE product looks simply stunning :D -The only problem with NZ is that they're so damm good that reward flights are generally impossible to find (although I know a few people have gotten lucky from time to time) :# .
DL

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 09:56
by DarkAuror
Thank you for the great TR and pics. y)

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 10:23
by Sealink
Wow!

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 11:05
by Concorde RIP
Been watching out for this one -- really great write up, thanks for taking the time to do it.

This sounds like a brilliant return trip. I've read other good reports of ANZ, and they are definitely near the top of my shopping list now when fares/routes allow.

Really enjoyed reading - thanks again!

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 12:24
by Martin
James - thanks for an excellent write up. Really good to hear about the new PE seating. I did the NZ2 trip all the way last year AKL-LAX-LHR in one hit in the older PE seats. That was upstairs in the bubble on a 747 and I was impressed with the service then. Adding in those great looking seats makes it look like a real contender for my miles or money. It looks like they beat VS PE hands down on legroom - that's my one gripe with VS PE seats. Plus you get FC miles and the odd tier point as I recall.

As you say ... lots of food for thought.

Cheers

Martin

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 12:33
by stevebrass
Great TR.

I'd heard they had rejigged the PE seats and it seems to good effect.

Auckland here we come!

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 12:35
by tontybear
Sealink wrote:Wow!


Ditto !

And the IFE screen looks massive too !

y) y) y) y)

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 13:51
by Guest
Fantastic TR and pictures! The ANZ offering for PE really does look fantastic and I would definitely consider this for my future flights to LAX.

Thanks for posting.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 15:41
by clarkeysntfc
Looks very impressive, the only question I've got is about foot space.

It doesn't look like there's much room to put your feet given the sold seat back in front and the beanbag in the way?

I might be wrong but it seems to give the impression that you can't put your feet under the seat in front as you can on VS PE.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 19:56
by Vegascrazy
clarkeysntfc wrote:Looks very impressive, the only question I've got is about foot space.

It doesn't look like there's much room to put your feet given the sold seat back in front and the beanbag in the way?

I might be wrong but it seems to give the impression that you can't put your feet under the seat in front as you can on VS PE.

I've just edited my post to amend the pictures, I realised some of them were a bit 'samey' so have removed a few and added some others which I hope illustrate the legroom aspect better. Essentually you are utilising the left'hand space of the shell of the seat in front - there literally was loads of room.

Slinky's right, ANZ were forced to remove an entire row of seats in August shortly after launching their new PE product. This followed passenger criticism that legroom was not up to par. Apparently this added 4-5 inches extra per row!

I also corrected my post to include the full choice of dinner main courses as I'd only given one!

Thanks
James

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 20:57
by at240
Thanks for a brilliant trip report. Very tempted by ANZ and hopefully will get to try them to LAX in 2012.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 21:50
by Miss G
Wow, this looks amazing, puts some of the other products on the market to shame!

Thanks for the TR.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 22:22
by buns
James

Firstly, thank you a very informative TR y) y)

I have to say from your account, the PE product is stunning and I would be very tempted when my time comes to visit NZ

Have a good Christmas

buns

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 01:45
by Petmadness
Brilliant TR y) As for the PE cabin - looks totally awesome and way beyond most others out there at the moment oo)

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 03:02
by RobL
Great TR. We considered flying ANZ back to the UK in September to try the new space seat - but were put off as travelling through LAX only J class passengers are permitted to go to the lounge (as you have to go landside and return back airside) - before anyone says anything I had reciprocal access with DJ Velocity.

However, from memory, 2.5 years ago, when travelling LAX-MEL with ANZ there were day passes available for purchase for US$45 or 50 p/p, credit card only, at the lounge door. We had a five hour wait so well worth the investment. As pointed out the Terminal is a hole - but not as bad as T3 which can only be decribed as 'hell, but with carpets'.

Re: NZ2 LAX-LHR 17 DEC 11 (PREMIUM ECONOMY)

PostPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 09:57
by Jacki
This is impressive, thanks for taking the time to include the detail and pictures. It's looking as if our next trip to Oz in 2012 may need to be re-arranged! y)