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#451348 by Nottingham Nick
23 Aug 2008, 13:19
If Virgin are going to hit the front page of BBC news, then this is probably the best way to do it. [:D][;)]

Let's just hope it is a warning light fault or something simple. We don't want another plane taken out of service long or short term.

Nick
#451350 by Sealink
23 Aug 2008, 13:50
Some nervous flyers today I'm sure... :(
#451352 by slinky09
23 Aug 2008, 14:49
Ahh the land of adjectives strikes again, what exactly is a 'full' emergency compared to an emergency!

Glad all safe and hope they continue their journey.
#451356 by Scrooge
23 Aug 2008, 16:11
It seems the aircraft was G-VLIP and it lost an engine during take off.
#451357 by Stevieboy
23 Aug 2008, 16:11
According to the BBC's Website they are going to cover the flight with a LHR aircraft which should depart around 8pm.

-Steve
#451359 by barnstaple
23 Aug 2008, 16:25
Technical faults aside - is getting an LHR a/c over an LGW one worth a 10 hour delay?
#451361 by n/a
23 Aug 2008, 16:39
Originally posted by barnstaple
Technical faults aside - is getting an LHR a/c over an LGW one worth a 10 hour delay?


Have you tried driving on those roads??? [:w]

GJ
#451362 by barnstaple
23 Aug 2008, 16:45
I may be being thick but I don't know what you mean!
#451363 by moid
23 Aug 2008, 16:48
I thing this refers to getting an LHR a/c 'over' an LGW one - I think you meant 'cover'
#451365 by barnstaple
23 Aug 2008, 16:56
OK, what I actually meant (although it is probably a pointless question) is, if you had a choice of flying at your scheduled time on a LGW config aircraft, or being delayed by 10 hours and then flying on a LHR config aircraft, is there any occasion you would think - I would rather wait 10 hours and go on the LHR config?
#451366 by moid
23 Aug 2008, 16:59
Not unless you were hoping for an op-up due to the different configurations - but would this even be worth a 10 hour delay?
#451372 by Boo Boo
23 Aug 2008, 19:22
My guess is that Virgin have not used a LHR configured plane over another LGW configured plane because it has extra UC/PE seating, BUT because they didn't have any free/unallocated LGW configured planes left....

...I know the impression given by the artical is different, BUT - from my experience - that is probably the ineptitude of the journalist (or the spin that they chose to put on it...).

I am sure that the flight is being sent on as soon as is practical.

Boo
#451384 by willd
23 Aug 2008, 21:24
Originally posted by Boo Boo
My guess is that Virgin have not used a LHR configured plane over another LGW configured plane because it has extra UC/PE seating, BUT because they didn't have any free/unallocated LGW configured planes left....



That will be exactly what happened one would imagine.
#451389 by Denzil
23 Aug 2008, 22:00
Always a problem losing an engine!! A wallet, watch or phone is one thing, but 5 tonnes of CF6-80 engine takes some losing!!!!!

On a serious note, it would be a safe move to return to LGW. A problem that could end up as an engine change in Barbados would be very expensive!!!!
#451391 by willd
24 Aug 2008, 01:12
Originally posted by slinky09
Ahh the land of adjectives strikes again, what exactly is a 'full' emergency compared to an emergency!


This thread on a.net at reply number 20 contains the different level of emergency that UK Airports operate.

The term 'Full Emergency' is an industry term.
#451393 by Bill S
24 Aug 2008, 04:55
Some good pictures of VLIP venting fuel.
Having some trouble getting the link to work - you may have to follow:
Aviation Photography È Civvy Photography È Virgin 747 G-VLIP in trouble

New engine being fitted overnight.
#451403 by RichardMannion
24 Aug 2008, 12:20
Originally posted by Bill S
New engine being fitted overnight.


Do Halfords readily have them in stock then? Or is it a Jewson special? [:)]
#451428 by buns
24 Aug 2008, 17:13
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Originally posted by Bill S
New engine being fitted overnight.


Do Halfords readily have them in stock then? Or is it a Jewson special? [:)]


Or

'Here is one I made earlier'[:D]

I am sure VS do not resort to sticky back plastic though

Buns

BTW Don't you just love the negative reporting the media in the UK have embarked upon?
#451440 by Bill S
24 Aug 2008, 18:30
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Originally posted by Bill S
New engine being fitted overnight.


Do Halfords readily have them in stock then? Or is it a Jewson special? [:)]


VS's GE donkey farm is a little better that Halfords!
#451449 by Denzil
24 Aug 2008, 22:32
Why do you think Aircraft Engineers are entitled to Halfords Trade Discount Cards!!!

As previously stated a return to LGW better than a 3 engine ferry empty back from BGI or an engine change down there!!

This kind of engine failure can look quite impressive (757 video link on the other thread), last saw one on an RB211 powered 747-400 & also the subsequent borescope inspection of the engine (now that didn't look nice).
#451455 by mike-smashing
25 Aug 2008, 02:15
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Originally posted by Bill S
New engine being fitted overnight.


Do Halfords readily have them in stock then? Or is it a Jewson special? [:)]


I remember reading a book about Ryanair and O'Leary. The Ryanair Head of Engineering made a proposal to O'Leary to buy a spare CFM56, even then concerned about the cost of the spare engine despite them needing it. O'Leary's answer? 'Buy two'.

Even if VS didn't have a spare engine at Gatwick, I guess they could fairly rapidly source an CF6 from KLM in Amsterdam who maintain the CF6s in the VS fleet.

Mike
Virgin Atlantic

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