Where have all the N's gone?

I need to get 5 economy returns to New York for the end of the month and the lowest prices that are coming up this morning are £415 in Q class. I realise that the sale has just finished but I wasn't expecting this! Are the normal N fares likely to return after a week or so to make it look like the sale was a real sale or is that it? It seems strange that BA who also ended their sale at the same time (coincidence?) are still offering seats in the £270 region. I want to fly VS because of my miles (just got silver this week after a protrated miles claim for a Continental flight from Sao Paulo to New York) but to be honest it's goona have to be BA if this situation is unlikey to change.

Any ideas?

p.s. what we actualy need idealy is LON-Philadelphia outbound and Austin, TX-LON inbound, anyone got any bright ideas how to do that on Flying Club elligable flights?

[Scrooge]

US air, though on the flight back you will need to connect.

US also offers 34" seat pitch on their A33o's.

As I have no idea of the dates you will need to do a quick search.

BA price's right now are kicking VS's to death I am sorry to say, the days of VS being a backpackers dream are long gone.

Hi Scrooge, yeah I checked out US air but the tricky bit seems to be getting back up to Philly from Austin to catch the return, the US air website will only show fares between where it flys, not any code shares or star alliance stuff. My dates are 28th Feb out, 18th Mar back.

It's a shame about VS's price being so poor at the moment, I work as a tour manager for bands and we need to take 10 or 12 transatlantic returns a year and BA's awful leg room (worse than VS I'd say), ropey IFE, noisy 777's and haughty 'no miles in economy' executive club makes me hate them but if VS continues to be £150/head more than BA I really haven't much choice

[preiffer]

Try using ITA's route planning software. Quite powerful...

(More details in the Clubhouse )

BA option (sorry) £322:

London, United Kingdom to Philadelphia, PA: 3533 miles 8 hrs 5 min

British Airways Flight BA67 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in coach class
(meal)
Departs London, United Kingdom (LHR) Wed, Feb 28 11:15a 8 hrs 5 min
Arrives Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 2:20p

Austin, TX to London, United Kingdom: 4959 miles 12 hrs 20 min

JetBlue Airlines Flight B6 1062 on an Embraer RJ-190 (jet) in coach class
Departs Austin, TX (AUS) Wed, Mar 7 12:05p 3 hrs 35 min
Arrives New York, NY (JFK) 4:40p
Layover in New York 1 hr 50 min
British Airways Flight BA112 on a Boeing 747 (jet) in coach class
(meal)
Departs New York, NY (JFK) Wed, Mar 7 6:30p 6 hrs 55 min
Arrives London, United Kingdom (LHR) Thur, Mar 8 6:25a

Continental Option £323:

London, United Kingdom to Philadelphia, PA: 3546 miles 11 hrs 3 min

Continental Airlines Flight CO 19 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in coach class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs London, United Kingdom (LGW) Wed, Feb 28 10:30a 8 hrs 0 min
Arrives Newark, NJ (EWR) 1:30p
Layover in Newark 2 hrs 0 min
Continental Airlines Flight CO 9457 on a train in coach class
(operated by AMTRAK TRAIN 649)
Departs Newark, NJ (EWR) Wed, Feb 28 3:30p 1 hr 3 min
Arrives Philadelphia, PA (ZFV) 4:33p
Note: You must change terminals in Newark (EWR).


Austin, TX to London, United Kingdom: 4981 miles 17 hrs 55 min

Continental Airlines Flight CO 340 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in coach class
Departs Austin, TX (AUS) Wed, Mar 7 6:55a 55 min
Arrives Houston, TX (IAH) 7:50a
Layover in Houston 8 hrs 10 min
Continental Airlines Flight CO 34 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in coach class
(dinner, snack, movie)
Departs Houston, TX (IAH) Wed, Mar 7 4:00p 8 hrs 50 min
Arrives London, United Kingdom (LGW) Thur, Mar 8 6:50a

Delta Option £341:

London, United Kingdom to Philadelphia, PA: 4475 miles 11 hrs 57 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL37 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in coach class
(lunch, movie)
Departs London, United Kingdom (LGW) Wed, Feb 28 11:20a 9 hrs 10 min
Arrives Cincinnati, OH (CVG) 3:30p
Layover in Cincinnati 1 hr 0 min
Delta Air Lines Flight DL4491 on a Canadair RJ 700 (jet) in coach class
(operated by Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Inc.)
Departs Cincinnati, OH (CVG) Wed, Feb 28 4:30p 1 hr 47 min
Arrives Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 6:17p
Note: The layover in Cincinnati (CVG) has relatively little room for delays.


Austin, TX to London, United Kingdom: 5027 miles 18 hrs 55 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL1184 on a MD-80 (jet) in coach class
Departs Austin, TX (AUS) Wed, Mar 7 6:00a 2 hrs 10 min
Arrives Atlanta, GA (ATL) 9:10a
Layover in Atlanta 8 hrs 25 min
Delta Air Lines Flight DL12 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in coach class
(dinner, movie)
Departs Atlanta, GA (ATL) Wed, Mar 7 5:35p 8 hrs 20 min
Arrives London, United Kingdom (LGW) Thur, Mar 8 6:55a

[Scrooge]

Just a word of warning on those, if you choose to go with Delta check the routing, if they try and put you through Cincinnati ask for a different routing, love the airport, love the area, hate the CRJ-700's.

hmm,thanks for that Preiffer. Not hugely thrilled about the idea of those 8 hour layovers on the way back on the CO and DL options! The BA looks pretty good but is just under 2 hours really enough to pull off a change of terminals and check into a transatlantic flight at rush hour? I'd be nervous about delays to say the least.

presumably you don't get any miles for the amtrak codeshare?

doubt it, its only 60 miles anyway!