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Ethics and protocol of filming....

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 15:29
by Ianflies
We are soon off to SanFran and Vegas, using the new CH from LHR and flying UCS. I am also in process of planning another holiday, UCS, where I will bring my parents too, but I really want to give them a taste for the CH and UCS so they can see the excitement, thrills and spills, all first hand.

Is it the done thing, or can I get away with a bit of filming when we go, of the lounge and UCS so everyone can see (of the manadtory Holiday Video Showing!), or will it be frowned upon by the busy business exec. or staff etc?

Just wondered if anyone has done it, or objected to it, or thinks it is OK to do,to show the folks how to travel in style?!

Thanks.

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 17:10
by HighFlyer
As long as you dont film staffers and members of the public in any great detail i dont see it being an issue. You might get a couple of frowns in the lounge for looking a bit touristy but i guess its no different to the hoards of camera-armed individuals at any major sightseeing place. When onboard, I'd just focus on filming your suite and ask the FSM if you want to film any other part of the cabin.

Thanks,
Sarah

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 18:30
by Guest
We did take a few pictures of the LHR clubhouse, as it was our first time. On board we did film a few snippets, mainly of our suite.

Like you i am taking my parents in AUgust on their first UC journey, so would like a few pics.

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 19:02
by Ianflies
Thanks - looks like covert and undercover are they key!

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 19:40
by slinky09
Please do make it covert and don't appear to linger over any individual - I for one expect a certain amount of privacy and peace and quiet in the clubhouse and take very unkindly to people intruding on that with cameras.

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 19:42
by Ianflies
Originally posted by slinky09
Please do make it covert and don't appear to linger over any individual - I for one expect a certain amount of privacy and peace and quiet in the clubhouse and take very unkindly to people intruding on that with cameras.


Of course, although I am not making a documentary! Just 30 seconds of highlights in the lounge. I don't intend zooming or interviewing anyone! Perhaps not such a good idea after all!

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 19:47
by Wolves27
I think the odd photo (which I've done, and still do occasionally) and even a panoramic shoot on the camcorder (which I havn't, but several videos on youtube have) are fine in the clubhouse.

Like others have said, long lingering shots on anyone would be a no no. Would be more discrete on the plane, and I don't often take than many photos on there for fear of looking too much like a tourist.

If this is your first time in there and you want to photo it I don't see why anyone should have too much of a problem [:)]

Cheers!

Dean

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 19:54
by slinky09
Originally posted by Ianflies
Originally posted by slinky09
Please do make it covert and don't appear to linger over any individual - I for one expect a certain amount of privacy and peace and quiet in the clubhouse and take very unkindly to people intruding on that with cameras.


Of course, although I am not making a documentary! Just 30 seconds of highlights in the lounge. I don't intend zooming or interviewing anyone! Perhaps not such a good idea after all!


I should think you'll be fine, it's just that this is one of those areas where I am way off centre, any camera near my face or by chance recording it is a no no (and not necessarily because I'd fracture the lens [:p]).

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 21:09
by honey lamb
If you're there early enough and it's quiet in the Clubhouse you could film the various areas that are less populated. Of course there is the risk that there may be Zelebrities present in which case say goodbye to your camcorder as the minders reduce it to rubble [:w]

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 21:12
by Guest
I think just be sensible. Whilst we were in the CH, we saw quite a few with cameras.

For us our time in the CH, is during a family holiday and not a business trip. Taking a few snaps, so long as we dont intrude on anyone else is fine i think.

You only have to look at the CH pictures from members on this site to see how many actually take pictures. I enjoy looking at other people's snaps.

Enjoy your experience. x

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 21:49
by DragonLady
If you want to take photos of your own party/ family, then snap away. You've paid for your fare. If there are any frowning faces glaring at you, tough (my guess is these will be corporate travellers travelling on their employers cash).I really can't be doing with these supercilious types who don't actually pay their own money for their tickets (but who are uber condescending towards those of us who do).I've taken photos in every CH I've been in, on every trip (as have most V-flyers).Just use your common sense.Same applies on board.It does make me laugh - we're on camera (CCTV) without even knowing it, for huge ammounts of our 'normal ' day yet the thought of someone using a personal camera/ camcorder for capturing personal memories often provokes a negative response.

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 22:14
by Guest
DragonLady, i could not have put it better myself.

PostPosted: 26 May 2008, 22:47
by slinky09
Originally posted by DragonLady
supercilious types who don't actually pay their own money for their tickets (but who are uber condescending towards those of us who do)


I don't necessarily count myself as condescending or supercilious, however whether my company or I pay for my fare I don't think someone else has a right to flash a camera in my face. Now that is not what is being talked about here in such direct terms, but we all have a right to a view and a bit of space do we not?

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 00:15
by JAT74L
I always try to be as discreet as poss when taking pics but attempting to be TOO discreet has the potential to arouse suspicion.

I'm sure some folks have wondered what the hell I'm up to when photographing my meal for TR's!!!

Regards

John

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 03:04
by ChuckC
Ian, you've already received good advice. I would add that you should exercise caution when filming in public areas of airports, particularly anywhere near a security function.

Have a great trip and we look forward to your trip report!

Chuck-

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 03:50
by mcmbenjamin
IIRC, I remember seeing signs that states no to take pictures in the airport.

Also may be a good idea to NOT post them online. Who knows what other travelers told their work/SO or who they are traveling with. Better not to bust someones bubble.

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 08:03
by n/a
Destroy all cameras.

GJ

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 08:58
by Howard Long
There was a film crew in the CH a few days ago, I assume for Branson's Africa adventure. Amoung other things, they were getting their visas done by an Embassy guy who took the trouble to go all the way to the aitport for their convenience. I don't remember ever being offered a CH visa service as part of the UC experience. Does this look familiar?

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Cheers, Howard

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 10:10
by Darren Wheeler
Officially, airports can prevent you taking any pictures within there confines. However common sense (even with BAA...) applies. If it's just a holiday snap, there usually not an issue. The trouble starts if you look like a pro, shooting for commercial use. BAA charge from £180 to £14,160 depending on which side, how long and how many people per day!!!

You must not take any photos in restricted areas such as security, customs or passport control - there can be criminal penalties if you do, not to mention missing your flight. I have seen people dragged off at BOS for taking photos in the immigration queue.

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 12:15
by willd
Originally posted by Darren Wheeler
Officially, airports can prevent you taking any pictures within there confines. However common sense (even with BAA...) applies. If it's just a holiday snap, there usually not an issue. The trouble starts if you look like a pro, shooting for commercial use. BAA charge from £180 to £14,160 depending on which side, how long and how many people per day!!!

You must not take any photos in restricted areas such as security, customs or passport control - there can be criminal penalties if you do, not to mention missing your flight. I have seen people dragged off at BOS for taking photos in the immigration queue.


I believe certain by laws do exist in the UK which prevent photograph taking of security sensitive areas, MOD bases, GCHQ etc etc. I am not 100% but I am sure BAA have something in place which prevents photos being taken in passport control etc or indeed the whole airport as you suggest.

Importantly, there exists no law, currently, that prevents people from taking pictures in a public place. As others had said just be careful . Heck I intend to be taking pictures of the CH when I venture there in July. I do know some airlines, FR for example, are very strict on inflight photos and even demand the deletion of photos taken (which is illegal in the UK but I guess its better to comply than get banned from FR, although that might be aa good thing [}:)]).

PostPosted: 27 May 2008, 12:37
by Howard Long
Originally posted by willd
get banned from FR, although that might be aa good thing [}:)]).


I'd consider that a badge of honour.

Howard