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Aug 09 economy is 790

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:12
by disney_cjd
a shocking price. The cost has gone ballistic.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:14
by Sealink
Is there a route? And some dates?

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:17
by disney_cjd
oh, that would help

LGW to MCO
try 3rd to 29th and its now
825 pounds. YES 825!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:17
by preiffer
August = busiest holiday time of the year.
August = most expensive time to travel in the year as a result.
£790 = Yup. And...?
(Sealink, I'm *guessing* by the OP's username, it's Orlando...)

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:20
by disney_cjd
preiffer I know that and its all supply and demand but come off it 825 quid for an economy flight when its the only time certain people can travel.
You can get PE for that at other times of the year.
Going mad init

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:23
by preiffer
Other airlines have gone bust on that route, so that's also a factor.
Analogy: Tesco and Asda shut down and it's hot outside, strangely, bottles of water in Sainsburys and Morrisons go up in price...
It's that age-old rule again and again: Pay the price you're willing to pay. If it's more than that, don't pay it. Life's full of choices - this is just one of them.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:25
by disney_cjd
but there is not much choice is there on that route. Direct flights from BA or Virgin and you have Richard crying into his web page about dont let the BA AA merger go through as it will effect prices. Hate to think what that will affect it by!
Didnt Virgin make 60m USD profit this year? I bet they are aiming for 100m at these prices LOL.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:28
by preiffer
There WAS choice, when there were cheaper airlines on the same route. Some of those have gone bust. That would tell me something - maybe they were TOO cheap.
Maybe this IS the 'true cost' of flying that route* while keeping an airline profitable/alive. (*obviously, factored in as an average over the year)

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:35
by Tinkerbelle
A quick check on the BA site for flights to Orlando on the 3rd August returning on the 29th August comes out at £802 so no difference really to the VS price.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:37
by Penny_L
The same dates flying with BA is still over £800 for cheapest fare

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 00:40
by Tinkerbelle
Even going LHR-DUB-MCO-DUB-LHR on Aer Lingus on those dates will set you back £816 so I think that is going to be the normal fare at that time of year on most airlines.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 01:13
by slinky09
Originally posted by preiffer
There WAS choice, when there were cheaper airlines on the same route. Some of those have gone bust. That would tell me something - maybe they were TOO cheap.
Maybe this IS the 'true cost' of flying that route* while keeping an airline profitable/alive. (*obviously, factored in as an average over the year)
Not sure if it is the 'true' cost, more likely it is one of a range that averages over the year at something like acceptable margin.
Rather it is a 'true' cost in the sense that it is priced according to the market extremes for the time of the year, and no doubt makes a very healthy profit to counter the times of the year when there's no profit.
No doubt if VS charged a true cost at all times of the year, then lowest would be substantially higher than they are.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 01:18
by disney_cjd
Originally posted by preiffer
There WAS choice, when there were cheaper airlines on the same route. Some of those have gone bust. That would tell me something - maybe they were TOO cheap.
Maybe this IS the 'true cost' of flying that route* while keeping an airline profitable/alive. (*obviously, factored in as an average over the year)
Bring back Freddie Laker?

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 01:21
by Tinkerbelle
£824 on Air Canada LHR-YYZ-MCO-YYZ-LHR
[:X]

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 02:12
by Pete
I suspect there are always economy flights available on most VS routes for around £800-£900 - that sounds like a full fare Y, or maybe B bucket. The difference is, on those other routes, there's still availability of the cheaper buckets.
A couple of factors at play with August on the MCO route - it's the busiest time of year, on probably Virgin's busiest holiday route, so it's unsurprising all the cheap buckets would have been snapped up. Virgin Holidays will have grabbed most of the availability before the tickets have gone on general sale through Virgin Atlantic (something like 336 days in advance).
It's not that the airlines are all putting the prices up, you've just missed the chance to get the discounted buckets.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 08:21
by Scrooge
Originally posted by disney_cjd
Originally posted by preiffer
There WAS choice, when there were cheaper airlines on the same route. Some of those have gone bust. That would tell me something - maybe they were TOO cheap.
Maybe this IS the 'true cost' of flying that route* while keeping an airline profitable/alive. (*obviously, factored in as an average over the year)
Bring back Freddie Laker?
That I would like to see, I mean seriously, if you can pull that off you won't have to worry about spending £800 on a flight, the press will fly you around on your own plane.
Originally posted by disney_cjd
preiffer I know that and its all supply and demand but come off it 825 quid for an economy flight when its the only time certain people can travel.
You can get PE for that at other times of the year.
Going mad init
The answer is in your own statement.
Now I will try and be a little help....have you looked at one of the package firms ?
Also, take a look at DL, £638 inc via ATL....you may also want to change the inbound date, one day either way saves you £20 pp
Also...if you go to the CO website you will find the same flight for around £600 as well

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 10:04
by Professor Yaffle
Simply down to supply and demand.
Oh, and Gordon bloody Brown and his disgraceful punitive airline taxes dressed up as green measures.
So dont blame Virgin - blame our wonderful government.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 11:04
by AndyK
Sounds like a typical fare considering the time of year. Not sure what the big deal is.
In any case, if you don't like the price, don't book it.

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 11:18
by Neil
You will find similar fares at all the peak times. We paid £750 for Economy at Easter this year. All options, including the charters were very similar prices, it is just a case of pricing accordingly to the demand. Go in February like we are next year and prices are less than half the cost!

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 14:08
by barnstaple
Im with the don't like it don't book it factor!

Posted:
21 Oct 2008, 22:39
by Guest
Be a bit flexible with dates and you can do it for under £700.

Posted:
22 Oct 2008, 15:47
by thelaceys
Originally posted by disney_cjd
Originally posted by preiffer
There WAS choice, when there were cheaper airlines on the same route. Some of those have gone bust. That would tell me something - maybe they were TOO cheap.
Maybe this IS the 'true cost' of flying that route* while keeping an airline profitable/alive. (*obviously, factored in as an average over the year)
Bring back Freddie Laker?
Yay, we flew Freddie Laker MAN/MCO twice on rickety old planes, dead comfy, on time, lovely cabin crew. No complaints at all. What a loss. And cheap as chips (in my case with curry sauce [;)])
thelaceys

Posted:
22 Oct 2008, 16:13
by Alex V
Dare i say £597 NWA mid aug[B)][B)]
cheers
ALEX

Posted:
22 Oct 2008, 16:21
by Scrooge
Dare I say Freddie Laker is dead [:#]

Posted:
22 Oct 2008, 16:36
by RichardMannion
Low prices are not good for every situation.