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Upper Class Hell?

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 15:23
by mdvipond
Saw this in this morn's Telegraph.

http://www.virginatlantichell.com/

Considering recent v-flyer trip reports and criticisms of penny-pinching in UC, it seems a pretty risky marketing venture to me...

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 16:03
by fozzyo
Ooooh look - flowers on the bar!

Won't be entering that competition for two reasons - don't pay for J or D tickets and haven't flown any other airlines bus class. :(

Could get some interesting responses.

Foz xxx

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 16:03
by preiffer
I've registered, but in fairness, the only comparison of full J I have to use is my Air Canada trips every other month.

Given that comparison, VS win hands down... [V];)

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 16:39
by markb
Read the T&C's - you cant enter if you have ever flown Virgin Upper before - thats surely going to rule out an awful lot of people on its own. Oh well, i was looking forward to the trip to the Cayman's, thought i had it in the bag![V]

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 17:23
by mdvipond
Should work for them then, should it not. If you've never experienced the truly great food of yesteryear - or satin cushions, flowers on bar etc. - then you won't really miss it will you?

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 18:00
by ade99
The T+Cs seem to favour VS, plus the usual VS decision is final condition leads me to think that someone would need to be very lucky to achieve this.

It also talks about a combination of products including things like the bar etc which when you look at it on paper means VS will win hands down I think.

Be interesting to see if someone does win, and what will happen if they do? Would anyone find out about if there was a winner anyway???

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 19:24
by kkempton
I noticed that advert in the times today... had a feeling it might pop up on this site!

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 19:29
by p17blo
Plus as this offer is only valid on J & D which comes with a limo surely they may claim something like:
"Yes, we admit our catering is pretty poor at the moment but in out opionion you limo ride more than compensated for this"
Who else gives you a limo ride for a business class fare?

Paul

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 19:45
by kkempton
Emirates gives you a limo for a business class fare... apparently the foods better on board too.

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 20:02
by mike-smashing
It appears that the comparison is massively stacked in VS' favour, certainly in respect of the VS "extras" that other airlines don't/can't/won't offer.

So, in that sense, it's just the UC vs. everyone else "tick list" recycled.

It doesn't say "Were the food choices acceptable?", "Was the food edible?", "Was the cabin properly cleaned?", "Was the aircraft on time?" - you know the really important things.

Oh well...

Mike

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 20:35
by jaguarpig
Who else gives you a limo ride for a business class fare?

Gulf Air

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 20:43
by preiffer
Originally posted by jaguarpig
Gulf Air
They also have rather nice flat beds, too. As well as a rather well thought out service for dealing with children ;)

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2005, 23:01
by fozzyo
Originally posted by preiffer
Originally posted by jaguarpig
Gulf Air
They also have rather nice flat beds, too. As well as a rather well thought out service for dealing with children ;)


Ok, that must surely go down as one of the best in-flight services offered! Oooh maybe VS should get Jo 'Supernanny' Frost or the Dr from BBC 3's Little Angels in for a few months! ;)

Having looked at those pages, may have to add Gulf Air to my list of wouldn't mind trying out.

Foz xxx

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 03:35
by ChuckC
Originally posted by mike-smashing
It appears that the comparison is massively stacked in VS' favour, certainly in respect of the VS "extras" that other airlines don't/can't/won't offer.

So, in that sense, it's just the UC vs. everyone else "tick list" recycled.

It doesn't say "Were the food choices acceptable?", "Was the food edible?", "Was the cabin properly cleaned?", "Was the aircraft on time?" - you know the really important things.

Oh well...

Mike


I agree, Mike.

Chuck-

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 09:48
by FamilyMan
Originally posted by preiffer
They also have rather nice ... well thought out service for dealing with children ;)

Impressed!! Something VS should certainly think about on the B&S routes - great idea.

Particularly like:

"a Sky Nanny will be on hand to escort you to a dedicated seating area in the aircraft." - All kids in one area?
"Arranging convenient dining times for the children to leave you free to enjoy your own meals"

Phil (Buffy)

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 17:57
by PatDavies
All kids in one area?


On the wing?[}:)]

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 19:48
by slinky09
Hmm, more I look at the advertising and consider this I wonder just who the campaign is supposed to impress. I find the 'you can go to hell bit' a little unadvised and the general tone to be uncomfortable. Probably me, but I think it's a bit of an own goal campaign - and where's the humour that's such a keymark of good Virgin ads of the past!

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 21:52
by p17blo
Originally posted by preiffer
They also have rather nice flat beds, too. ]

Yeah, but just how flipping far away the TV is. My eyesite is pretty good but I think I would struggle with that after an 8 hour flight.

Paul

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2005, 22:26
by Pete
By defining the rules to only make comparisons with their unique selling points, they're making it very tricky to do a proper evaluation.

However, if you're on a flight were the IFBT is having the day off (it happens), and the Freedom Menu isn't offered immeadiately (GNF?), and compare that to an airline like Gulf or Emirates, you might be in with a fighting chance. Perhaps if you lived outside Virgin's free limo zone, or they were just having a really bad day.

Ok, I give in. Given the rules, it would appear to be practically impossible to make a claim.

Pete