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London Stansted and Virgin Atlantic???

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 19:32
by walker314
Hey,

Can anyone tell me anything at all about if Virgin Atlantic will be coming into STN anytime soon? There has been rumours that ryanair will move out of Sat 3 and go into Sat 4 and Virgin will move into Sat 3?? [?]

Or will any other airlines be coming into stansted in the near future?

Many Thanks for all replies.[y]

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 19:34
by AlanA
GOD I hope not!
an awful place to try ad get to. Closer to where I live than LGW or LHR, but twice the time to get there.

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 20:12
by jilly
Not heard anything about this before - if anyone knows anything I would be interested - fantastic for me as its less than an hour away.

Don't panic Alan - I'm sure the thinking is in terms of an extra departure airport rather than a replacement;)

Jilly

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 22:43
by slinky09
Please god no, leave stanstead for chavs and scallies [:o)][:o)]

How do you get to it anyway, oh and where is it?

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 22:47
by kkempton
I couldnt see it fitting in really with the BAA plans for Stanstead. As far as Im aware, tis being touted as Londons Low Cost gateway, which is more than accurate atm.
I dont really like STN that much anyway, its too small and has a rubbish departure lounge.

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2005, 23:45
by FamilyMan
Interesting. I flew into STN on Virgin metal once on diverted VS008 out of LAX. Stacked over LHR and was low on fuel. Sat on the ground for an hour an a half and then took the short flight to LHR.

Looked pretty dead and that's my only experience of STN as I am not a fan of the Low Cost Carriers.

Phil

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 00:12
by bostonbrit
Maybe someone meant Virgin Express? [?]

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 00:35
by NYCFlyer
Originally posted by slinky09
Please god no, leave stanstead for chavs and scallies [:o)][:o)]


I object, I have to work there!! ;)

Actually you are right, there is a fair amout of lowlife that travels through STN. Doesn't really sit well with the VS type product - equally can't understand the EOS thing going on every day right outside my office window (though loads are v.poor from what we have been able to find out). At their prices I wouldn't want to be wading through the STN backpacker fraternity. Call me a snob but..............

Graham

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 01:02
by willd
VS have said in the past they that have a 3rd airport lined up for possible expansion in the many years to come- especially if LHR and LGW become overcrowded- often been assumed in the industry to be STN and this is how the goverment and BAA want STN to be viewed as- the viable alternative to LHR/LGW in 20 years.

Whilst many on this board seem to have a very bad view of STN- it must be remembered that not so long ago our beloved LGW was viewed in the same light- after all it was only charter airlines and more recently crazy men who tried to start airlines like Laker and Branson that flew out of LGW. Times do change.....and with LHR/LGW becoming even more crowded and with LGW local residents fighting a 2nd runway- STN becomes even more attractive. Of course we are talking a number of years down the line before VS arrive- in fact I would place a bet on an expansion of ops at MAN years before STN sevices- although EOS are trying their best to raise the standard at STN!

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 01:14
by Richard28
lets face it - it's not going to happen!

I'm sure given the slots and rights, VS would much rather operate all flights out of LHR rather than LGW - let alone open a third London base.

Even now, VS has purchased slots which it has yet to fill at LHR (i.e. the slots leased to Air France for the Lyon service) - and these can't be filled until new planes get delivered.

Any non LHR/LGW expansion will be out of MAN for the forseable future - I would put my money on that!

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 10:22
by fozzyo
Is Stansted the one that is a shopping centre with a runway or is that Luton?

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 10:24
by Decker
Actually Willd I still have that view of LGW [}:)]

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 11:13
by fozzyo
The problem I have with LGW is that whenever I travel I am now coming down from the midlands. For a comparison of travel times to the airport for me we are looking at:

LHR: 2hrs 45mins
LGW: 3hrs 30mins
STN: 3hrs 30mins

But if you are trevelling down from / through the midlands Heathrow is a much more convienent airport to get to. And of course the West Country too.

Naturally VS flying from BHX would be ideal for us, but that isn't going to happen. Extending their MAN service would though be appreciated. A CH and a few flights a week to JFK / EWR would be perfect. There are plenty of people who fly VS who have to travel down from the North of Watford.

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 12:48
by VS-EWR
Originally posted by fozzyo

Naturally VS flying from BHX would be ideal for us, but that isn't going to happen. Extending their MAN service would though be appreciated. A CH and a few flights a week to JFK / EWR would be perfect. There are plenty of people who fly VS who have to travel down from the North of Watford.



Yeah, when I visit England, I usually stay at one of my relatives house's, both of which live north of Watford (although ones lives practically in Watford). That's why we never take the CO metal flight, because Gatwick would be much farther from our real destination.

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2005, 13:11
by onionz
Originally posted by fozzyo
Is Stansted the one that is a shopping centre with a runway or is that Luton?


I thought that was all BAA airports? :)

Snob hat on.

STN is a very convenient airport for me - i'm at the bottom of the M11 and it's some way further up, possibly less than 30 minutes away depending on conditions. That, of course, is irrelevant as it stands as there is no compelling reason for me to ever visit there!

With regard to LGW - the only sensible way of surviving the ordeal is to leg it through the two level shopping complex and get to a lounge ASAP!

Snob hat removed but stored for future use. ;)

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 13:55
by original bob
Airport Snoberry run rife!

Chav`s and Scally`s - outrageous! I`m neither and use STN and have often commented that it would be great for the hop across the pond to JFK or EWR.

Would you prefer Luton instead? :D

For those of us who don`t get lounge access as not every flight is in Upper then STN is a much nicer place to be than either T3 at LHR or heaven forbid LGW!

LGW is THE pikey airport

:D

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 14:52
by AlanA
Originally posted by original bob
Airport Snoberry run rife!

Chav`s and Scally`s - outrageous! I`m neither and use STN and have often commented that it would be great for the hop across the pond to JFK or EWR.

Would you prefer Luton instead? :D


If its a choice between fighting the A14 and M11 with its road works, excessive spped cameras and idiotic driving, taking three hours to get to, or M1 for 1 hour, then, yes, Low'un before Chavstead :D

better than that would be Virgin catering to its large following in the midlands and flying out of Birmingham, or at a push (as that's over an hour away) EMA

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 15:04
by Littlejohn
I must admit that I had to look up some of the terminology in this thread, being so old and warty. So looking up Pikey, I come across this definition:

"And another that p***** me off is that all people like goths n stuff say tht we is sheep and follow each other in what we wear but if thats true then surley goths are sheep to because they all follow each other and wear and what they listen to and Im not one of those ppl who call ppl different to me, in fact it p***** me off as much as it duz u Im just proving a point that theyre not all what you think and are actually nice ppl, after all everyones got their own oppinions and views so think what u want Im just provin ma point"

[:?] Is it just me, or is this a totally different language to English?

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 15:04
by Treelo
Originally posted by Decker
Actually Willd I still have that view of LGW [}:)]


Me too, Decker[y]

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 15:08
by Decker
Seem to recall reading that on a Chav site sailor....[}:)]

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 15:12
by willd
Decker- I must agree that I hate flying out of LGW for the exact same reason you do. Am off to Fl twice next year and will be flying to JFK from LHR and then down on a decent airline rather than be subjected to LGW and the good old b+s.

If VS could have it their way they would only fly out of LHR I am sure.

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 16:33
by original bob
Alan A
Chavstead


Ha ha ha quality :D

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2005, 18:02
by Scrooge
Originally posted by willd


If VS could have it their way they would only fly out of LHR I am sure.


Yes they would,but not for these reasons.The gross on the same route.

Say LHR-LAX is about 20% more than on an LGW-LAX route,due to longer runways meaning more cargo.Yes there is a small premium for flying into LHR over LGW paid by the pax,but it's not 20%.

PostPosted: 07 Nov 2005, 18:51
by catsilversword
Chavs and scallys? Er... I was at Gatwick just a month ago and couldn't move for them.

PostPosted: 07 Nov 2005, 20:36
by slinky09
Oh dear, think I started something there, the smiley was supposed to indicate humour not insult [B)]. And I even have a paid of Burberry swim shorts so stones and glass houses methinks