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#15415 by webdes03
02 Oct 2006, 17:58
In a new memo to employees this morning, President Don Bornhorst said Comair's response to Delta's RFP for components of its Delta Connection flying will be based in part on pilot costs that have not been restructured and that reflect where we are in negotiations. Comair's bid is due to Delta today, Monday, October 2.

"Today marks the deadline for Comair's response to Delta's request for proposal for components of its Delta Connection flying, including flying on 70- and 50-seat jets currently in our fleet. In communications last week, I said it was "highly unlikely" that Comair would be in a position to submit a competitive bid because we have not completed our restructuring with our organized labor groups. We have made little progress on our pilot negotiations since that time, and we will be forced to reply with pilot costs that have not been restructured and that reflect where we are in negotiations. This certainly will not win new aircraft nor retain the existing fleet."

"Despite discussions held over the weekend with ALPA, we have made little progress toward achieving competitive pilot costs and, as a result, will be bidding with contract terms that actually increase our cost disadvantage and almost certainly prevent us from winning or retaining flying," according to the memo.

The memo goes on to thank those employees and pilots that have made sacrifices and stuck with Comair through this time. It also mentions that Comair will continue to look for growth in areas that we have a quality product and competitive costs, such as Maintenance and Airport Customer Service operations.

I guess I personally would say to those arrogant pilots and flight attendants that thought they didn't deserve a cut that I hope you find unemployment more conducive to your daily life, since we obviously won't be needing you all much past November.
#141644 by mcmbenjamin
02 Oct 2006, 18:24
Originally posted by webdes03

I guess I personally would say to those arrogant pilots and flight attendants that thought they didn't deserve a cut that I hope you find unemployment more conducive to your daily life, since we obviously won't be needing you all much past November.

Ding Ding. Welcome to a union! Unions are good for the employee, right? No. Employer? Not Really. Shareholder? Losing all value sucks. Folks that run the union. Well benefits them til the company fails due to high labor cost.

Unions go long work in (atleast) American (the country) airlines.

Reference: The last ten years financial statements of main US airlines. Also Aer Lingus may fall in there but they are really trying to change things. The only reason I know about Aer Lingus is due to a huge comparison between EI and Southwest I did a few months a go.
#141911 by webdes03
04 Oct 2006, 15:02
Originally posted by mcmbenjamin
Ding Ding. Welcome to a union! Unions are good for the employee, right? No. Employer? Not Really. Shareholder? Losing all value sucks. Folks that run the union. Well benefits them til the company fails due to high labor cost.

Unions go long work in (atleast) American (the country) airlines.

Reference: The last ten years financial statements of main US airlines. Also Aer Lingus may fall in there but they are really trying to change things. The only reason I know about Aer Lingus is due to a huge comparison between EI and Southwest I did a few months a go.


Sir. I want to thank you. If v-flyer had a respected user list you would certainly be added.

I made the grave mistake of posting that on a.net only to be completely chewed up and spit back out by everyone there. One in particular who said as a 22 year old I couldn't possibly know anything about how the airine industry works. This same individual also said that it was unfair for a pilot who spends $100k on his education to make $35k/year, and thus they don't deserve a pay cut; and that it is unfair that these people should have to live on or below the poverty line. Life is unfair, get over it. I'm a part time customer service agent... you don't think what I make is below the poverty line.

So I thank you Sir, for seeing my point instead of picking it apart. [oo]
#141921 by pjh
04 Oct 2006, 15:55
Originally posted by webdes03
also said that it was unfair for a pilot who spends $100k on his education to make $35k/year


£20,000 a year to fly an aircraft ? [:0] Seriously ? I could drive a cab and earn that. The downside of a perpetual drive to reduce labour costs in skilled, stressful professions is that people will stop wanting to enter that profession.

Paul
#141922 by mcmbenjamin
04 Oct 2006, 16:04
GBP20,000 - After a few (three to five) years.

And many wonder why I choose to be a boring accountant. Funny thing is that I am not highly certified in the accounting field but am making more than I would fly which I am highly certified in.
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