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#15378 by MarkJ
30 Sep 2006, 10:05
Not a TR as such and not a social event – so I trust that this is of interest to the forum? There are various pictures from the day which I am sure will get posted shortly.[y]

Richard (Mannion), Sarah (Highflyer) Gilly (Roxsy-Popsy and I had kindly been invited by Peter( Mavrick) to have a tour round T5 and see what it was like before areas get cordoned off for security and build purposes. I have to say that there was an opened mouth “wow” factor as we went from area to area around this building - its absolutely massive as is going to be state of the art – a few current facts:

There are actually going to be 3 Terminals – A, B and C – Terminal 5A- which is the one you can see from the M25, is 3 times bigger than terminal 4. T5A is the same size as the current T4

British Airways will exclusively use T5 – the have a lease on the building for 20 years and an option to extend to 35.

The budget for building is £27 million per week – yes per week!! ( but currently spend is at £14 million a week!!)

There are nearly 7000 people involved in then building.

It’s currently the largest single site construction in Europe.

There will be 129 toilet areas at a cost of £27 million throughout the building.[:0]

Current snagging costs are running at £2 million!! Every small dent upwards is labelled with a bar code so that they know exactly what needs fixing!

The site has gone 2.25million man hours without a reportable accident – the HSE visits regularly and the standards on site are the highest in the country. Commemorative watches have been given to every employee to celebrate this achievement.

The T5 project has its own newspaper – “The Site”.

There will be ongoing construction work at LHR until at least 2038!! ( T2 will be knocked down and rebuilt in this time)

Gilly – being organised arrived in the N3 visitor car park at 8am – Peter had arranged to meet us in the car park at 9am – so 10/10 for you Gilly – as for the rest of us – hmmmm?? I decided to travel down the night before and stay nearby – so set off from my hotel at 8am. Up and down the A4 I went trying to suss out the map Peter had sent me – if only I had realised that the A4 is not the Western Perimeter road – DOH!![:I] Anyway at about 830 I call Pete from the MacDonald’s and as his office is nearby he kindly wanders down to find me along with his wonderful colleague and driver Kevin. I follow them along the ( now found) Western Perimeter up to the N3 Car Park.

On the way Richard and Sarah call – oh dear – they are stuck in what turns out to be 14 miles of stationery traffic on the A40 near Witney ( the day before the were hurtling round in Maseratis on a test track and today 0 miles per hour on the A40) So it looks like they will be running late!

Meet Gilly in the car park – first time we’ve met so great to actually meet another v-flyer and straight away we are into holidays and what It was like etc!!! Once a V-flyer nerd always a v-flyer nerd I guess!!:D

Peter and Kevin collect Gilly and I from the car park and then set off for T5 – then we have to go back because I have forgotten my passport – so another false start DOH! ( again)!![:(!]

Drive up to the main entry which will eventually become the passenger entry when he building is open. Complete the security check in using the aforementioned passport – there are many people waiting to get on site and security is tight!!

Then drive round the building through what appears to be a maze of roads – Kevin tells us that they change the road system daily so its easy to get lost! Apparently there are over 350 lorry entrances to site each day – and that’s with them trying to keep vehicle movements to an absolute minimum!!

We drive past Varga Girl which is parked on stand next to T5B – apparently VS use these stands for parking and having planes cleaned etc – we can practically touch her as we go past!! She looks beautiful and shiny!![:p]

Arrive at Pete’s office – it’s a huge two storey complex upon which they are about to put a third storey – pop inside and get a coffee and then we go upstairs to the main office – its bustling and really busy – you can tell that there's a lot going on. Peter has reserved a conference room – they are like gold dust – and we settle in for some background on the building.

Peter shows us a set of plans on a floor by floor basis – explaining that departures is on the top floor and that passengers enter through the top floor of the multi storey car park – and then across a bridge – this keeps vehicles away from the building to aid security. He takes us through the self serve check in areas where there are many bag drops to the main check in and ticketing areas – these are in three huge banks to the left, right and centre as you enter and then through to the security and lounge areas. The BA international lounge is a monster with a direct view from the 5th and 4th floors out onto the whole of the airport – it will be fantastic!!

As we go through the plans its clear to see that no stone has been left unturned – here is a facility or an area for everything – retail, restaurants, lounges, VIP areas, CIP areas, huge baggage handling facilities – more of which later, prayer rooms for every denomination, areas for minors, illegal immigrants etc etc etc !!

Get togged up in our T5 hi viz, safety shoes, hard hat, safety glasses and gloves and pop outside where Sarah and Richard are just arriving. ( It must be noted that Richard brought the wrong ID with him so a new pass had to be hurriedly drawn up – tsk!! Hehehe![:w]) Interestingly we were given all the safety gear as it is mandatory on site for everyone – I was curious about the gloves but apparently they have prevented so many scrape and cut injuries that they have paid for themselves!! On the way round Peter caught a few sub-contractors without their safety glasses on – naughty!![V]

So now we were all assembled – and we then walked into the ground floor area of the building – under the sign proudly proclaiming how safe the building construction has been!!

As the building has taken shape various areas are being finished and/or tested – so we enter at ground floor into what will become the VIP entrance – so people like the Queen will stand where we are stood!! This lets VIP’s enter the terminal and board their aircraft without going anywhere else in the building. :D

Next up is the baggage hall where they are testing the baggage belt – this is fantastic and runs on a continuous loop from T5A out to B and C – it takes 8 minutes for a bag to do the complete circuit. The process for a bag is that it leaves the check in or bag drop and is tagged with a microchip. This can then be recognised through the whole system. Your bag will then go through security screening and end up on this massive conveyor – we3 saw bags being tested and they “sit” on the top of the belt on an individual “carriage”. The belt moves a 30mph and when your bag reaches its of load point near your aircraft or wherever then it is tipped off – this is state of the art stuff and will reduce check in times if the airport and airlines want to do so.[:?]

We then go down into the “Tomb of Horus” – the sub basement area lets you see the massive pillars upon which the whole building is sat - although the pillars have only been there for 4 years they look like something from an Egyptian tomb!!

Along through the airside areas to see various crew rooms, rest rooms, toilet and product handling facilities – all of which will be impossible to get to when the building is open. And then up, up, up to the top floor and departures. We have a quick look in the BA lounge which is just beginning its fit out – and what a view this is – and its HUGE!! You will be able to sit in here and look out over the airport or on a mezzanine floor looking into the terminal – we all agreed that we would have to turn to the “dark side” to give this a test!!![:w][:w]:D

We then enter the main departures area – “wow” again – this is impressive – the idea is that you can see from one end of the building to the other – and it really works – the design and architecture are modern yet stylish and the whole building works really well – the roof has areas of glass for natural light – coupled with the huge glass walls this makes it very pleasing – then there are huge aircon units to keep everything at the correct temperature. We see the bag drop points and look down to see the maze of tunnels and belts underneath the floor – the main floor of black marble is already being laid and covered over for protection!!

We walk through what will be the security area and out into the airside departures – this is built like a huge theatre with 2 levels and again because the walls are glass you can see the whole airport and plans landing and taking off in front of you!!

We cant get over how impressive the whole thing is - both in terms of size, design and layout.

Peter shows us a partially completed toilet area – the walls are a lime green colour – I think it looks a bit insipid and apparently BA thinks the same – so a whole load of lime green wall covering may be about to leave site!![:(!]

Walk back down 5 flights of stairs to the ground level again and across to the T5 energy centre. This building provides all the hot and cold water( for air conditioning units) for the building – so its already running. Its impressive – for example – hot and cold water is pumped from here to T5B and eventually to T5C which is 2 miles of pipe. They use a heat exchange system with the current LHR energy centre which is 4 miles away. Two Olympic size swimming pool reservoir areas hold the chilled water for the air con until its needed!! All uncontaminated waste water ( like rain water) is treated and then pumped into the nearby reservoir! The incoming water main is 28 inches in diameter!!! There are three water boilers – each one is the size of a small house. They use Ammonia to as the coolant – if this escapes a state of the art ventilation system pumps it out. The centre and T5B/C are linked by tunnels – these are straight and you cannot see the end!! Amazing place!!

We go up to the energy centre roof to see the cooling systems up there – it takes a great viewing area for the Southern runway and I comment that it would be great to see a VS plane take off – right on cue G-VSHY Madam Butterfly – takes off into the afternoon sky – running slightly late to IAD but putting on a great show to cap off our tour!!! She looked so elegant and we were so close!!:D:D:D[:X]

Back down to Peter's offices to Hand back the borrowed gear and say our farewells to Pete who was on the 001 to EWR that afternoon so we were eating into his Clubhouse time – sorry Pete!! ( His TR appears elsewhere!!)

Kevin then kindly runs us back to the car park where we say our goodbyes!

T5 is an amazing building and we all agreed that we couldn’t wait to go in it when its finished – it will be so cool to see areas where we walked as it was under construction and know what’s behind doors and areas that we will not be able to go into!

Have to really thank Peter for organising such a VIP tour around the facility – his knowledge of the place was amazing and he was a wonderful tour guide and perfect host – Peter – we thank you!!![y][y][y][oo][oo][oo]

Im sure if I've forgotten anything then Sarah, Richard or Gilly will fillin the gaps!!
#141364 by VS045
30 Sep 2006, 11:06
Thanks, Mark - sounds good![y]

VS.
#141389 by Bazz
30 Sep 2006, 12:57
Yes thanks Mark and also to Peter. It certainly sound most impressive and some of those facts and figures - wow!
#141393 by Neil
30 Sep 2006, 13:04
Excellent Info, thanks Mark for providing that, and thanks also to Peter for allowing them to have the tour to enable them to inform us.

Neil:)
#141412 by pjh
30 Sep 2006, 16:07
Just to add my two penn'orth respect to;

- the Project Management team who are pulling together a massive endeavour

- the H&S team for all those hours with no reported accident

- to Mark for remembering all the detail and preparing the report.

Thanks

Paul
#141425 by willd
30 Sep 2006, 18:56
Sounds amazing!

Just of interest you mention about the VIP entrance and the Queen. Does this mean that the Royal Suite will be relocating into t5?!?
#143412 by G-VROY
16 Oct 2006, 14:32
what a tour! sounds great! good you got to see a couple of VS planes up and personal![y]
#143417 by HighFlyer
16 Oct 2006, 14:49
Mark - blimey you have a good memory! Either that or old age is finally catching up with me. Awesome recap - do not think i can add to the exceptional piece you have written here.

Yes, big thanks to Peter for taking us on the tour, it was fascinating, and Richard and I could probably have stayed there all day.

The luggage system was awesome, reminded me of Monsters Inc. with all the doors on the conveyor belt.

We'll definitely be taking a BA flight once T5 opens - the size of the lounges they are building (with clear views of the runway) may indeed put the new VS Clubhouse to shame for J and F pax - so would be rude not to check it out. :)

Thanks,
Sarah
#143557 by Mavrick
17 Oct 2006, 09:22
Guys & Gals, your'e more than welcome and I will organise another tour 6 months from now so you all can see the progress we made and thank you for all the compliments. [y]
#143719 by Roxy-Popsy
17 Oct 2006, 22:04
GOSH, that was a fascinating report & I was there!
I have to say that the tour of T5 rates alongside my private tour around the LHR Virgin hanger & 2 planes (& seeing Concorde) last year & that was totally mind blowing![y]
How Mark remebered all the details I'll never know.
I came home & was zombied out from all the amazing facts & figures. It was totally awesome. I count myself so very very fortunate to see all that I did.
I have to reiterate Mark's comment that the detail to the health & safety of everyone on the site is to be admired & respected.
Thank you again Peter[:X], we owe you big time. Gilly
#143721 by HighFlyer
17 Oct 2006, 22:07
Gilly - Where's that picture you have of me outside the BA Crew room? Forward it on girl!!

Actually Gilly has a fab point, the fact that this project is on time and under budget is a true testament to the great guys and girls working to build T5, and our hats go off to Peter as one of those.

Thanks,
Sarah
#143726 by tallprawn
17 Oct 2006, 22:35
Great detail Mark, thanks very much for a taster of what is to come. Glad London is finally getting it's hands on a world class facility.

Shame that VS has to slum it in T3 though - Bring on those much planned and required upgrades for T3....[:w]
#143731 by Roxy-Popsy
17 Oct 2006, 23:20
Sarah
I haven't forgotton it girlfriend but, I need my 16 yr old to lighten it before it comes to you as it was a tad dark. I hope you post it when you receive it. I won't be posting the one of me by the lavvy sign! X
#143829 by MarkJ
18 Oct 2006, 16:29
Originally posted by HighFlyer
....and our hats go off to Peter as one of those.



NO!! We cannot do that - Health and Safety wont allow it!! Tsk! [:I]
#143874 by VS045
18 Oct 2006, 20:24
Shame that VS has to slum it in T3 though - Bring on those much planned and required upgrades for T3....


The new gates (5-7 or so) are actually pretty good, even if they are a bit aeronautically scandinavian style for my liking. They don't have much of a traditional LHR feelings - is that a good or a bad thing?[:?];)

However, I must say, that most of it does need redoing (and higher ceilings; pet hate of mine)[:$]

VS.
#160750 by Mavrick
20 Feb 2007, 14:23
From the Site newspaper.

T5 ties the knot with Tiffany.

T5 has pulled off a huge coup with the signing of legendary jewellery brand Tiffany & Co. as one of its flagship fashion stores.

T5 is pursuing a mission to surprise its customers with a series of retail firsts and to ensure that the whole travel experience is fresh and inspiring from the moment a passenger enters the building.

The new store will be the only Tiffany & Co. airport boutique in Europe, and only the second such airport store in the world Ð and will be an enticing addition to Terminal 5 for the luxury goods fans passing through from the UK, EU and US as well as the growing hotspots of India, Russia and China.

The boutique design will reflect the 170-year Tiffany & Co. heritage and feature architectural details of the famous New York flagship store. Pride of place and a real point of difference will be a dazzling exhibition of fine jewellery from the archives, highlighting the superb craftsmanship and pure quality of materials for which Tiffany is renowned.

BAAÕs Retail Director for Terminal 5 explains:

"We are really excited to be working with Tiffany & Co. It is an iconic brand, coveted throughout the world. I canÕt wait to see the store open."

"Tiffany delights everyone who visits, however much they have to spend. Once again, as with the signing of Gordon Ramsay amongst others, Terminal 5 is clearly creating an experience that goes way beyond traditional airport retailing."
#160755 by Littlejohn
20 Feb 2007, 15:03
I can see how the T5 team would be so excited by that - it will give travellers something great to look at, whether they buy or not. I always remember a trip we took to the NY store, keeping my wallet firmly zipped up of course. In particular the lift attendant had the most wonderful bass voice I have heard - quite rivaled Richard Burton's speaking voice. He seemed somewhat amused when we kept taking the lift up and down just to hear him say Ground Floor!
#161292 by Mavrick
24 Feb 2007, 09:01
From the Site Newspaper.

Duo of British fashion leaders set to turn heads at T5:

Two of the UKÕs leading contemporary fashion brands Ð Ted Baker and Kurt GeigerÐ have signed deals to create unique concept stores at T5, when it opens in March 2008.

These highly-regarded retail names join an already illustrious line-up at T5 where the mission is to create a completely new experience in airport shopping.

Ted Baker is creating a very individual theme for its T5 space called 'Twisted Nature' and it will include a range of products exclusive to Terminal 5.

'Twisted Nature' will be brought to life in a number of typically quirky ways with the aid of natural materials such as bark, felts and wood integrated into the fixtures and fittings showcasing the range of menswear, womenswear and accessories.


Centre stage will be given to a specially commissioned icicle light fitting that will run the full length of the store.

Kurt Geiger, the luxury shoe retailer with the widest portfolio of menÕs and womenÕs designer footwear brands in the UK is also creating something very special for its T5 store.

It is moving away from its standard shopfront and displays, and instead has created, exclusively for T5, a vibrant red attention grabbing colour palette. Inside, a display of mirrored boxes decked with natural light, will ensure that each shoe can be coveted from every conceivable angle.

It will exhibit not only KGÕs signature brands but preview exclusive guest designers spanning Christian Louboutin, Vivienne Westwood, Gina and Paul Smith. Look out for the designers themselves who will be making regular appearances in the store Ð offering sartorial advice and signing shoes.

"BAAÕs Head of Category for Fashion and Accessories explains: "Terminal 5 has been looking for a fresh twist from brands at the heart of British retail. These two have really risen to that challenge and created something wonderful and individual for our customers."

"Not only are they promising sparkling collections, but each will provide a unique environment to enhance the start of everyoneÕs journey. WeÕre really excited at the way the T5 fashion offering is taking shape Ð and can promise to reveal many more details over the coming months."
#161296 by MarkJ
24 Feb 2007, 09:28
With all the trendy shops and restauarants I think they should just open the place up as a high class shopping centre!!

[}:)]
#161495 by Roxy-Popsy
25 Feb 2007, 23:10
Mavrick
I you would like me to pop along & try on some of Tifaany's items then I really don't mind.[:w];)
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