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VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 03:36
by Kraken
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Did OLCI at T-24 and got a very poor SEQ8 & SEQ27 (separate booking refs). Headed up to Manchester & had a good evening out in Manchester – can definitely recommend RED’s True BBQ for somewhere to eat!

Back to our hotel – a Premier Inn near the airport. As always, I had a good nights sleep - have always found Premier Inn’s hard to fault for the price you pay. Have had some bad nights sleep in hotels costing many times the price.

Manchester Airport certainly comes to life at around 5:30am, as we heard the regular rumble of departing aircraft climbing out. Given that we were in “holiday mood” there was no way further sleep was forthcoming.

Got a taxi to the airport and walked straight up to the empty Upper Class desk (queue for Economy & Premium Economy was quite big). Bags taken off us, boarding passes issued & stickered for priority lane access at security.

There was a short wait at security, but through in under 5mins. Picked up a bit of duty free to “make the evenings in Orlando on the balcony more enjoyable” – OK, a bottle of gin. Ruby Tuesday is at the gate being prepped for the trip to Orlando.

Up to the Escape Lounge which whilst not quiet, was not rammed full like I have seen it on occasions. Interestingly, we were directed to the right hand side of the “normal” Escape Lounge – not taken to the Delta Escape Lounge like in February.

Passed the time in the lounge whilst resisting the urge to read the papers – plently of time on the flight or that. I am wondering if my friend “Mr G4S” will be at the gate again this time round.

Wandered down to gate 212 and boarding was just about to start. No Mr G4S & the ground crew did boarding by cabin, starting with Upper Class (no mention if Flying Club Gold either).

Onboard G-VXLG and was offered some of that pretty awful Gardet Brut Premier Cru that Virgin are passing off as champagne now. I know it is champagne but what was wrong with the Lanson?

Pushed back a couple of minutes late and had an uneventful takeoff. The service started with drinks & lunch orders being taken when the seatbelt sign pinged at 10,000ft. Everything was going fine until we got to about the East cost of Ireland – when the Captain came on the PA saying we were returning to Manchester due to a fault with the aircraft.

All the service items were quickly cleared away and we took about 50mins to get back to Manchester, whilst dumping fuel. You could tell that the fault with the aircraft was not life-threatening as the descent was completely controlled and the crew were talking and chatting in the galley – they would not have been doing this if they expected the landing to be anything other then routine. This did not stop some passengers freaking out though, including one passenger in Upper Class – the crew let her partner stay with her on the ottoman until the final seatbelt sign went on, then a crew member stayed with her until about 30secs from touchdown, when he ran for his seat.

We had a completely uneventful, but very heavy, landing in Manchester. Were greeted off the runway by fire crews who followed us to a remote stand. My initial thoughts were that we will not be going today as there were a load of busses & a couple of sets of steps waiting for us on the stand. Also, the tug drove off as we approached the stand.

After a while on stand, the Captain came on the PA to advise that engineering are trying to fix the problem & that a replacement flight crew have been called in to operate the flight. Orange juice, water & cookies were offered to passengers in Upper Class.

A bit later we had a further update that the fault had been located and could be fixed. One of the replacement flight crew is already at the airport too. Then the FSM made the killer announcement – there would be no hot food on the flight as the meals had started to cook before we diverted, so they cannot be served. They had called the caterers who said it would take 4hrs to re-cater the flight, so they are loading extra sandwiches, snacks and cold food. This is no huge loss for me, because I was less than impressed with the menu in Upper Class so had selected a cold Thai Beef Salad & was going to have the cheese. Fingers crossed these should be OK as they are chilled. It’s now 14:30 and I’ve not had a huge amount to eat today… knew I should have had that bacon roll they offered in the Escape Lounge! (But no, I thought lunch on the plane would only be a few hours away).

For those who are interested, the current Upper Class menu for VS75 / VS73 & VS77 is as follows (April menu cycle);

Starters
Pea and mint soup (v)
Warm chicken satay
Buffalo mozzarella and Roma tomatoes (v)

Mains
Lemon and thyme chicken
Seafood Linguine
Keralan curry (v)
Chilled Thai beef salad

Pudding
Warm brioche and butter pudding
Chocolate torte

Cheese
French brie
Stilton
Applewood wedge cheddar

The new captain came on the PA to announce 10mins to push-back – we were just waiting for a bag to be loaded… his bag. The technical fault had been with a cooling fan that triggered a warning light & they decided to return to Manchester as a precaution & to get the fault fixed. Must have cost them a fair bit for the fuel we dumped.

At about 15:20 we departed for round 2 of VS75. Expected flight time is now faster than earlier with 8h14m expected – and from the off it is clear they are trying to make up time as the time to Orlando in Skymap is decreasing faster than “real time”.

Drinks were offered pretty quickly – as was lunch. The FSM’s announcement on the ground must have been intended for either the Economy or Premium Economy cabin(s) as the full Upper Class menu was served. In my opinion this Upper Class menu is not one of Virgins’ best – but each to their own.

When lunch service started, the table on seat 9K was totally jammed shut. The crew tried all they could to free it (including bending a few knives) but to no avail. They ended up ripping the tray table out of the seat wall and bypassing the micro-switches underneath the seat so it could go into bed mode. That will be a good one for the defect book – just leave it sitting on top of the tray table with a note saying “spot where this needs to go”.

During lunch we got another update from the captain that started “Well this is about as far as you got earlier” and he went onto confirm that all was looking fine on the flight deck & that we should expect an earlier then planned arrival into Orlando – probably around 7pm local time (so 4hrs late). The only saving grace is that this should mean we miss the afternoon rush at immigration.

After lunch I slept a bit but thankfully woke up in time for the Haagen Dazs run. Just over 4hrs of the flight left, so it looks like we’ll be into Orlando at 18:50ish.

Afternoon tea was the normal fare – but I was not particularly hungry and had a couple of sandwiches and some coffee. The cabin was secured for landing about an hour later.

A fairly quick descent followed – and we landed at Orlando at 18:50, so we had made up some time. As predicted immigration was not too bad. I got directed to a self-serve kiosk, it scanned my passport & detected it was a UK passport / I am a British Citizen & it then decided to error with an “Invalid Country” message. Thankfully the people overseeing the kiosks allowed me to use the small queue for seeing a CBP Officer after the kiosks – as the immigration hall was filling up now.

So all in all, another good flight with Virgin. Shame about the return to Manchester & the delays caused, but safety has to come first.

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 05:52
by buns
Kraken

Thank you for an excellent "on the spot" TR y) y)

As you said, an announcement that food was off is a killer. We were once delayed a couple of hours and all pax had deplaned with a food voucher only to be told there would be no food on the flight when we re-boarded n(

Thanks once again for keeping us informed of what really happened - enjoy the Sunshine State and leave some cocktails for me when I get out there next week ):

buns

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 07:08
by David
James, Glad you got there safely in the end.

Its good to hear that you made up some lost time as well and hopefully now starting a nice (warm) relaxing break - its freezing in Scotland today.

Got to admit the menu doesn't look good either, hopefully it will change before we go out on the 24th - seems to be a few v-flyers in the sunshine state in the next few weeks :)

thanks for the updates

David

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 10:44
by dickydotcom
Thanks for the very prompt TR
I'm happy the problems were fixed quickly and you got on your way without too much hassle.
I feel Ruby Tuesday is like an old friend having flown her a few times. Last time only a couple of months ago. I hope she is feeling better with her new cooling fan.
Dick D

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 10:48
by hiljil
Thank you for a very interesting ( & prompt ) TR. I was pleased I knew you had landed safely in MCO before I began reading it ! I think I would be very nervous if I knew we were circling and dumping fuel but I would try to be brave outwardly !! :0
Welcome to the Sunshine State . We've been having some glorious weather 8D .

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 11:26
by Kraken
I am fairly certain the lack of hot food was for both PE & Y. On arrival in Orlando we were waiting in the PE cabin between L1 & L2 while the airbridge was docking. A PA was made by the FSM apologising for the "lack of hot food for most of you" and telling the passengers to go to the Virgin Atlantic desk to collect a voucher which could be redeemed in the main terminal for food.

I bet they did not get many takers given this was a full MCO flight with lots of families with children, who had been on the plane for over 12hrs. Body clocks were thinking it was midnight too. Certainly a couple (with no children) in the PE cabin said words to the effect of "just want to get to our hotel" [in a slightly more colourful manner].

Given that we arrived over 3hrs late in Orlando, there was no mention of EU261 - should there have been? The Courts have ruled that technical faults with an aircraft are not "extraordinary circumstances". €600 extra spending money will certainly buy a few drinks!

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 12:23
by Amo
Thanks for the excellent TR - so sorry to hear of the delay for you.

This plane also had a technical fault the day before whilst operating as the 27 - my sister was on that flight and it left an hour late as they went to find a replacement part for something or other :?

Have a great time in Orlando - the weather is warming up nicely now :D

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 13:09
by VS075
Thanks for the TR and for the 'on the spot' report on what actually went on and I'm glad to see VS were able to resolve the fault in a way that allowed you to fly the same day.

I'd have been less than pleased if I had to go on a long flight without hot food, but safety has to come first. It's potential delays such as this one when catching morning flights is one reason why I like to have a big breakfast when at the airport.

Have a good holiday and I hope your return flight runs smoothly.

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 14:05
by riff-RAF
Smashing trip report, many thanks. Sorry to hear about the lack of hot meals.

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 15:46
by Petmadness
Enjoyed that read, thanks for posting Kraken y) Always lovely to finally get there and be able to relax, hope the weather is perfect...going to be better than here for sure 8D
Not sure about the EU reg....especially if the same plane had a fault (the same one?) the previous day ?|

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 15:55
by whiterose
Great TR thanks, glad you arrived safely. I share your view that this isn't a good menu, we had it on VS1 last Tuesday. Enjoy your holiday in Fl, we're in NJ where the weather is very warm (hooray).

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 17:40
by jfenney
Thanks for the TR and full explanation of what happened ,it was nice to see a reasoned explanation about safety first , I think sometimes phase enters forget this. Glad to hear overall you were only inconvienced by 4 hours good on Virgin to be aware of the problem and had anticipated getting things moving for crews etc.

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 20:04
by classybird
Very good TR, shame about the delay. Must have been quite abysmal for the passengers in PE & E!
I too am not impressed by the UC menu. It appears to be the same for all US flights. Does anyone know how often it changes?

Anna

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 21:46
by honey lamb
classybird wrote:I too am not impressed by the UC menu. It appears to be the same for all US flights. Does anyone know how often it changes?

Anna

It used to be every three months but I don't know if that still stands. Having said that, there was once a period when VS changed caterers and the menu remained the same for the best part of nine months. One of the items was pea mash, which rapidly became known as 'irradiated mash' among regular V-Flyers who rapidly became bored with it! It wasn't very good in the first place! :$

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 23:50
by ultreen1
Great TR, 4 hours late isn't to bad in the grand scheme of things...safety first.
Those poor Y and W pax with no food and the J pax with a 3 course menu and a bar!
One of those times you're glad you're up front? I don't think I'd cope!
Darren

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 01:06
by classybird
honey lamb wrote:
classybird wrote:I too am not impressed by the UC menu. It appears to be the same for all US flights. Does anyone know how often it changes?

Anna

It used to be every three months but I don't know if that still stands. Having said that, there was once a period when VS changed caterers and the menu remained the same for the best part of nine months. One of the items was pea mash, which rapidly became known as 'irradiated mash' among regular V-Flyers who rapidly became bored with it! It wasn't very good in the first place! :$


Guess I'll have to fill up in the Clubhouse :?

Anna

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 08:54
by horburyflyer
classybird wrote:Very good TR, shame about the delay. Must have been quite abysmal for the passengers in PE & E!
I too am not impressed by the UC menu. It appears to be the same for all US flights. Does anyone know how often it changes?

Anna


The menu will change again within the first week of June :D

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 09:06
by horburyflyer
Thanks James for a super quick TR. Sounds like a pretty solid flight once airborne and that the crew handled the sudden change of plans well. Pleased the full service in UC was still able to take place. I'm guessing the FSM was also on form......?

I agree not many will have collected the vouchers on arrival considering the delay and I would certainly try to claim EU261 compensation, nothing to loose at all. The absence of a letter on arrival was most likely deliberate as the majority will not claim...

Personally I don't mind the menu though have experienced it a far bit in the last couple of months so the menu change in the first of week of June can't come soon enough.

Have a great time in the Sunshine state.

Jon

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 10:03
by Maximus
Glad to hear they managed to sort the tech issues out relatively swiftly and you were on your way again.

Enjoy the sun, its a grey and damp bank holiday Monday here in Devon.

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 18:17
by classybird
horburyflyer wrote:
classybird wrote:Very good TR, shame about the delay. Must have been quite abysmal for the passengers in PE & E!
I too am not impressed by the UC menu. It appears to be the same for all US flights. Does anyone know how often it changes?

Anna


The menu will change again within the first week of June :D


That's good to know - we are flying out on the 8th June :)

Anna

Re: VS075 MAN-MCO 2 MAY 15 (Upper Class)

PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 21:00
by tontybear
ultreen1 wrote:Great TR, 4 hours late isn't to bad in the grand scheme of things...safety first.
Those poor Y and W pax with no food and the J pax with a 3 course menu and a bar!
One of those times you're glad you're up front? I don't think I'd cope!
Darren



But they did have food - just not hot food.