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#13572 by steve821
23 Jun 2006, 22:24
Hi All
It was just the other day at my place of work when I wondered how many of the users of VA get their miles via their company paying for their flight tickets.
Having a small beauty business, I for one claim all the points even if staff are travelling. It is not a perk for them, I am paying the bill. The trip is business not pleasure.
I ask, in one sense as I see the phrase "MILES WHORE" and cannot define the meaning. Am I on the right track?
Perhaps the company staff who make the bookings should be aware of this very generous perk.
I may be totally wrong here but please love to see any responses.
Steve
#124189 by Nottingham Nick
23 Jun 2006, 22:36
There are some V-Flyers who get the points for company travel, there are also V-Flyers who own their company. :D

In this thread, the whole issue of who owns points earned on company travel is discussed.

I look upon the phrase 'miles whore', as a light hearted term for a person who will do (almost) anything to earn their points. [}:)];)[:I] By that, I mean that their choice of airline, hotel, credit card, car hire company, petrol station, supermarket etc. are all governed by whether or not they will earn points from the brand loyalty.

Nick
#124190 by Decker
23 Jun 2006, 22:44
Bottom line is I thought you CAN'T get points for staff travel as it accrues to their account. You could conceivably lay claim to them but what does the OP actually mean?
#124191 by locutus
23 Jun 2006, 22:56
Flyingco would seem to give the best of both. Miles for the company and the flier.
#124192 by slinky09
23 Jun 2006, 22:57
Originally posted by Decker
Bottom line is I thought you CAN'T get points for staff travel as it accrues to their account. You could conceivably lay claim to them but what does the OP actually mean?


Though if you have a Flying Company account you do get additional miles on top of those that the PAX earns, credited to a company account that can be used to reward FC members of your choosing. Is that what you're talking about Steve?
#124194 by easygoingeezer
23 Jun 2006, 23:01
Now your boss can just join flying club and pay to gift you some miles, which could be a tax free bonus as it isn't cash.
#124196 by Decker
23 Jun 2006, 23:04
This post clarifies the "reward FC members" etc.
#124210 by pjh
24 Jun 2006, 01:37
Originally posted by steve821
Hi All
It was just the other day at my place of work when I wondered how many of the users of VA get their miles via their company paying for their flight tickets.
Having a small beauty business, I for one claim all the points even if staff are travelling. It is not a perk for them, I am paying the bill. The trip is business not pleasure.
I ask, in one sense as I see the phrase "MILES WHORE" and cannot define the meaning. Am I on the right track?
Perhaps the company staff who make the bookings should be aware of this very generous perk.
I may be totally wrong here but please love to see any responses.
Steve


Steve

As the various messages suggest it's a horribly complex business, some legal and some moral matters. Do you pay for their travel directly or do they have to pay and then claim it back (this can make a major difference to personal cashflow if trips are cancelled) ? Do you expect them to travel on their time or do you pay them for working Sundays (to be there Monday) or Friday evenings (so they work all day Friday ?) Do you always fly them the cheapest class even on long haul when they are expected to be of their best on landing ? Do you always use the same airline or the one who can provide the best quote at the time? Do you route them direct or via the cheapest route offered (even if that adds a day to the flight time ?).

Paul
#124216 by ChuckC
24 Jun 2006, 03:37
Steve,
I certainly see your point about your staff's travel not being a "perk". It surely isn't. Maybe letting them keep the points, even though you did pay the bill, is a way of helping them feel a bit better about sleeping in unfamiliar and uncomfortable beds, getting up early and going to bed late, and the assorted other sacrifices worthy employees make for their employers every day.

Just my two cents' worth but I totally understand if you still feel you need to hang on to the points.

Regards,
Chuck-
#124219 by mcmbenjamin
24 Jun 2006, 04:10
Originally posted by Decker
Bottom line is I thought you CAN'T get points for staff travel as it accrues to their account. You could conceivably lay claim to them but what does the OP actually mean?


You cannot get miles for your employee's travel nor staff travel. Staff travel is a totally different bag of rules. Staff travel noramlly refers to travel relating to employee's of an airline.
#124232 by lilyjosh0
24 Jun 2006, 08:56
I consider my other half's miles small compensation for the number of weekends, children's birthdays and other special occasions he has missed due to business travel.
#124233 by steve821
24 Jun 2006, 08:59
Hi All
Thanks for all those informed replies, a bit of homework to do now with FlyingCo.
Interesting about "In my time or their own"
It does annoy me when people brag about all those points collected and how they will be spending them.
Thanks again
Steve
#124234 by Littlejohn
24 Jun 2006, 09:23
At my company we have lots of people traveling. We too looked at "pooling" their miles into one account which we would then auction for our preferred charity. I am afraid it was a non-starter as it simply is not possible, contrary to the OP, for the company to collect the individual's miles for them (we looked at BA, VS, and *A schemes).

FCo is of course a different matter, but that is additional to the individual's miles.
#124243 by pjh
24 Jun 2006, 11:23
Originally posted by steve821
Hi All
Thanks for all those informed replies
Steve


Nope it helped. Writing from an employee's perspective as I did acted in some small way as a kind of therapy for me - it may well have come through in my message that I have "issues" with my company's travel policy...

Paul
#124252 by slinky09
24 Jun 2006, 13:13
Originally posted by sailor99
At my company we have lots of people traveling. We too looked at "pooling" their miles into one account which we would then auction for our preferred charity. I am afraid it was a non-starter as it simply is not possible, contrary to the OP, for the company to collect the individual's miles for them (we looked at BA, VS, and *A schemes).

FCo is of course a different matter, but that is additional to the individual's miles.


In my small firm we do Flying Co. And use it as a reward/benefit to use, for example when someone has performed well, but doesn't get Club House access we sometimes give a ticket to it, through to giving someone miles to upgrade. So they're not distributed equally but we do hope fairly, and as incentives. We recognise that people travel at weekends or early or late in the day, that's free time a business gets so a little something in return is good.
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