End Of Hand Luggage??

Originally posted by porsche911
I am as sick as a parrot - Just bought a new pair of Bose Quiet 2 heapdphones for my long haul flights and it looks like I will not be able to every use them on board. Does anybody think this type of product will ever be able to be used again or have I just now bought a very expensive ipod pair of headphones for home use

This situation can't continue, so I am sure within weeks if not days you will be able to take your QC2's on board. On a trip a few weeks ago to EWR upstairs in UC on a 744, seven of the ten UC pax were using QC2's. Welcome to the club!

Cheers, Howard

Cheers Howard - Was thinking - "another white elephant"

Originally posted by fozzyo


One of the outcomes I wouldn't be surprised to see is a banning of liquid products on aircraft that haven't been purchased in Duty Free. To show it came from DF I would imagine they'll use the sealable clear carrier bags they use in US airports. If its sealed its probably ok to go on the plane.

The other sensible thing with US duty free is that you purchase and pay, but it is delivered, sealed, to the gate. This means that you have no control whatsoever over which bottle or package you get - this would therefore remove the need for tamperproofing.

The downside of this system is that if there is a mistake in your order, you have very little time to resolve it as you are supposed to be boarding.

The downside of this system is that if there is a mistake in your order, you have very little time to resolve it as you are supposed to be boarding.

It Does Generally work though, but you cant really work that system at heathrow as some of the gates are up to 15 minutes from the lounges![n]

[fozzyo]

Another thought about the carry on thing. I have seen on several sites people complaining about the lack of carry on because stuff gets lost stolen when checked so they refuse to check baggage.

Yeah it does, a small percentage does. But then a small percentage of stuff left in hotel rooms, cars and even homes does as well. Sometimes you just have to accept the risk.

I read the advice regarding essential medicines with interest.

They are suggesting that you are only allowed to take flight time + 4 hours of essential medicine on as hand baggage, and everything else has to be checked.

So, what happens if your flight is subject to significant delay (i.e. a weather delay at a downline destination - we've seen a few of these recently hitting the 6 hour mark)? What if your bags are mishandled, and go missing? You end up missing your medication. This has serious implications in some cases, and I can't believe that the CMO's office has issued this iffy advice.

I'm guessing some people would rather choose not to fly than check-in essential medications, further damaging the airlines and dependant industries.

More knee-jerk postulating and security tour de force, rather than making a proper threat assessment, and getting a durable policy into place. Excellent stuff.

Mike

As an addition to this thread, as a result of yesterday, I wonder if we may all need to apply for a US visa in future years? If the plot had (or indeed still did) happen, I wonder if US visas would become even more of a certainty?

i have my interview on the 30th for my residency here in the states so i hope they dont cancel it

Originally posted by mike-smashing
They are suggesting that you are only allowed to take flight time + 4 hours of essential medicine on as hand baggage, and everything else has to be checked.

This is really beyond a joke. Not only do I have to commit my laptop to the hold and lose out financially as a result of not being able to work on the plane (at £200/hr a flight to LAX can be fairly productive) and probably having my laptop reduced to its component parts by baggage handlers, but I'm also in the position that if the flight is delayed or if my checked in bag with my medication is lost then I will run a massively increased risk of dying.

Oh well, at least the financial loss from not being able to work on board won't matter then.

Grrr...

BC

Originally posted by mike-smashing
I read the advice regarding essential medicines with interest.

They are suggesting that you are only allowed to take flight time + 4 hours of essential medicine on as hand baggage, and everything else has to be checked.

So, what happens if your flight is subject to significant delay (i.e. a weather delay at a downline destination - we've seen a few of these recently hitting the 6 hour mark)? What if your bags are mishandled, and go missing? You end up missing your medication. This has serious implications in some cases, and I can't believe that the CMO's office has issued this iffy advice.

I'm guessing some people would rather choose not to fly than check-in essential medications, further damaging the airlines and dependant industries.

More knee-jerk postulating and security tour de force, rather than making a proper threat assessment, and getting a durable policy into place. Excellent stuff.

Mike

Interestingly here in Wales we've received no directive regarding this today as of 18.00 hrs (as far as I'm aware).For those who don't know I'm a nurse in an NHS drug and alcohol treatment service.I've had numerous calls today from patients who are travelling abroad this weekend and are concerned about travelling with medication which is legitimately prescribed by us (usually in liquid form and which in the main are controlled drugs for which Home Office consent has beeen sought and obtained to "export " on an individual named patient basis).The advice I've given is to carry their medication as usual (on their person because it's a controlled drug!) with the authorising letter from our NHS trust and the Home Office licence (naming them and detailing their medication) and to respond to any request to check in their medication (to hold luggage) as neccessary at the airport (minus contingency/emergency supplies).

Not related to hand luggage, but just spoke to someone who travelled back from Italy yesterday. Apparently they weren't allowed liquids or anything even in checked luggage. No suntan lotions, moisturisers, hand creams, anything.

[preiffer]

CHECKED (hold) luggage, Andy? [:0]

I've JUST got through Montreal security on my way down to Boston (after a rather severe queuing system).

No hand baggage restriction (ie: my ipod/headphones/laptop are still with me) but no liquids allowed to be carried onboard (including stick deodorants as witnessed!)

So, I'm now in the Air Canada lounge, where water and wine are presented to us in big jugs as the fridges with cans and bottles of drink have been locked. No diet coke access until Boston...

Yep checked hold luggage, might just have been due to the high alert. Seemed a bit odd to me!

Same here in MTL to LHR

Got my Laptop Bag & Carry on Bag - No problems there.

But in the lounge the bar is in lock down !! They must be saving a fortune as there don't seem to be any staff filling up the empty carafe's either.

There are going to be a lot of thirsty people on this flight!!!

Originally posted by DragonLady

Originally posted by mike-smashing
I read the advice regarding essential medicines with interest.

They are suggesting that you are only allowed to take flight time + 4 hours of essential medicine on as hand baggage, and everything else has to be checked.

So, what happens if your flight is subject to significant delay (i.e. a weather delay at a downline destination - we've seen a few of these recently hitting the 6 hour mark)? What if your bags are mishandled, and go missing? You end up missing your medication. This has serious implications in some cases, and I can't believe that the CMO's office has issued this iffy advice.

I'm guessing some people would rather choose not to fly than check-in essential medications, further damaging the airlines and dependant industries.

More knee-jerk postulating and security tour de force, rather than making a proper threat assessment, and getting a durable policy into place. Excellent stuff.

Mike

Interestingly here in Wales we've received no directive regarding this today as of 18.00 hrs (as far as I'm aware).For those who don't know I'm a nurse in an NHS drug and alcohol treatment service.I've had numerous calls today from patients who are travelling abroad this weekend and are concerned about travelling with medication which is legitimately prescribed by us (usually in liquid form and which in the main are controlled drugs for which Home Office consent has beeen sought and obtained to "export " on an individual named patient basis).The advice I've given is to carry their medication as usual (on their person because it's a controlled drug!) with the authorising letter from our NHS trust and the Home Office licence (naming them and detailing their medication) and to respond to any request to check in their medication (to hold luggage) as neccessary at the airport (minus contingency/emergency supplies).

I could have made a killing on reports for passengers flying this week with regards to particularly liquid meds. My advise if you're traveling with medication is take enough for the daytime, evening and all the following day. With a note from a doctor if any of these are liquids. Then pack all you holiday/trips meds in your check-in bags. Also have an entire holiday/trip's worth of tablets at home that a family member of friend can fedex out to you so that at least if your bags go missing you will find it a lot cheaper to have the meds couriered out to you rather than finding a gp and then paying for all the drugs.

Originally posted by mark_mcg
Same here in MTL to LHR

Got my Laptop Bag & Carry on Bag - No problems there.

If you read the new restrictions for flights leaving the US, the only changes seem to be to liquids and gels - seems you're ok with electrical stuff.

When they say essential drugs - where does that leave us for things such as over the counter painkillers or indigestion stuff - all in tablet form of course? There can't be many of us who don't travel without something like this, are there?

Originally posted by catsilversword
When they say essential drugs - where does that leave us for things such as over the counter painkillers or indigestion stuff - all in tablet form of course? There can't be many of us who don't travel without something like this, are there?

They would have to be checked in.

[Decker]

Oh wow - OK we always take aspirin to avoid DVT. And Airborne tablets to avoid in flight infection. Guessing we can argue for the former but not the latter - or neither?

[mitchja]

Just had another thought here....

What about hearing aids, as they are technically an electronic device [:?]

It not an issue or anything for me but my mum uses one and although she's not flying until November (by which time everything should be back to normal) I was just wondered that's all, as there doesn't seem anything mentioned about them.

She uses a newer digital version which unlike the older ones work much better onboard an aircraft. The older non-digital ones are not recommended due to picking up interference and loud background noises making it quite uncomfortable.

Regards

And wristwatches? many if not most are battery operated electronic devices. If the current ban on car keys, mp3 players etc is meant to prevent a concealed device being brought on board, then surely a nefarious device could be concealed in a watch.

My partner suffers from a back condition.
When we fly she always uses a TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation) machine. Without this she would find a transatlantic flight unbearable.
This apparatus was obtained via our local GP.

I assume that she is not alone is using this equipment , especially on long flights.
Does anybody know, especialy the VS staff, if she will be allowed to take this on board in the future?.

If you gotta use it then you gotta use it - but a call to Virgin is going to give you the definitive answer.

Originally posted by Tim
My partner suffers from a back condition.
When we fly she always uses a TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation) machine. Without this she would find a transatlantic flight unbearable.
This apparatus was obtained via our local GP.

I assume that she is not alone is using this equipment , especially on long flights.
Does anybody know, especialy the VS staff, if she will be allowed to take this on board in the future?.

I would certainly get a note from the Dr confirming it is needed for medical purposes and also inform VS I have heard their special assistance dept are very good with medical matters.
I do sympathise with your wife as I suffer from a chronic pain condition and once it sets in it can be terrible, I usually like to ahve my travel polster cushion with me to help, unfortunately tens does not work for me.

Claire

A friend of mine left MIA, last night on AA and he was OK to take his Ipod, camera and laptop on board But as Cat said above no liquids or gels. [:?]