LOOS in UC

Originally posted by VS045
In my opinion they need to be bigger and definitely need a window.
VS.

This is fantastic ... a window to poo on the world Then perhaps the loo should be turned in the opposite direction and one could stay in for hours. literally watching the world go by!

Size of the compartment is governed by the aisle size & the amount of space required for seats. On the Airbus they are a standard compartment size dependant on position to be fitted. Boeing are much the same, but tend to just have standard position's used by the majority of airlines. If you compare between the airlines there really isn't much in it.

As for the toilets, used to do some work with MOD contracts & it was amazing the stuff you came across. Like jamming every last thing you can find into ashtrays, using the sink instead of the toilet for #2's etc, etc.

A window in the loo, now we are talking!

Looking at what everyone has said, it is down to us the customer to ensure we do the business in the right place? If an accident does happen then contact the crew, who sorry, have the unfortunate job to clean up.

My inflight socks did get used on our last flight (UC from Mumbai)but towards LHR I did have to put my shoes on to use the loo as the floor was so wet.

The Cabin crew on this flight did a fantastic job in looking after us and I noticed them in and out of the loo on several occasions replenishing the paper towels etc. As alleged UC passengers it appeared we had a cabin full of animals on board!

p.s. Could the window have a blind on it,just in case anyone looked in??

Originally posted by slinky09

Originally posted by VS045
In my opinion they need to be bigger and definitely need a window.
VS.

This is fantastic ... a window to poo on the world Then perhaps the loo should be turned in the opposite direction and one could stay in for hours. literally watching the world go by!

[Decker]

Even in UC I pause on the threshold and get ready to throw tissue/towels on the floor - it might be tap water it might not. Better safe than sorry. And I always ensure the floor is dry (definitely tap water - tip for fellow males... try sitting down - tough to miss then) before I leave.

Originally posted by Decker


tip for fellow males... try sitting down - tough to miss then) before I leave.

It's the only way for the vertically challenged variety I'm afraid...[:#]
If I were to attempt to stand, I would need to be 4 foot away from the target area to avoid wedging my head into my chest cavity because of the lack of headroom....[:I]

Maybe we need the wooden slats that they have in swimming pool cubicles to ensure we don't get wet socks?

Can you imagine what the houses look and smell like of these Morons? If this is the way they behave in civilised society.

We admire the cabin crews who give such great service and smile even whilst cleaning up after said animals, I for one think they are brilliant.

Originally posted by Decker
Even in UC I pause on the threshold and get ready to throw tissue/towels on the floor - it might be tap water it might not. Better safe than sorry. And I always ensure the floor is dry (definitely tap water - tip for fellow males... try sitting down - tough to miss then) before I leave.

I think it's not the actual toilets that need the most attention but the users of said toilets[:?]

VS.

As a crew member I have to say that if someone did relieve themselves on the floor and not have the decency to clear it up themselves, I as a crew member would do one thing and one thing only, lock the toilet and redirect passengers to the nearest. ItÕs as simple as that and if anyone asked me why it was locked, I would politely explain that unfortunately one of their fellow passengers had decided to ease themselves (as the Nigerians put it) on the toilet floor and the crew canÕt be expected to clean it up when we are also food handlers. None of the crew are bothered about cleaning up (with gloves on and plenty of antiseptic cleaner) a few spots of unidentified liquid on the floor, or seat cover or the odd bit of soap scum around the sink, but when it comes to full blown saturation, vomit or poo, that goes well beyond the call of duty in my opinion. There is a toilet inside the cubicle, please use it. And remember that little rhyme IF YOU SPRINKLE WHEN YOU TINKLE, BE SWEET AND WIPE THE SEAT.

[honey lamb]

I never cease to be amazed at the insanitary habits of some people, be it on a plane or in some other public toilet. My philosophy is - if I make the mess, I clear it! If I'm at home I have to do it. No-one else will, so why should I assume the same elsewhere? I would hate to think that there was someone outside waiting to use the same loo who would think that I was such an animal as to leave it in that condition. On the one occasion I did throw up in the loo, [:I] I damn well made sure I cleaned up after myself

[Scrooge]

Starguy, you are of course 100% correct

I'm in agreement that the scumbags who can't even hit the bowl are the big problem, and I second (third, fourth, whatever...) the crew who have said they won't mop up number twos that missed the spot. Locking the lav out of use seems like a good idea.

Tell you what can be passed to the "Bathroom Working Group": providing toilet sanitiser, so people can wipe down the seat with disinfectant first. Then at least they might actually sit down properly to do their business.

To take HL's comment, my dad used to work for BT. He's refused several times to carry out work in unsanitary homes and business premises, and believe me he's seen it *all*.

Also, the Brits on here might remember "Life of Grime"...

Mike

This is such a fantastic British subject ... I can't imagine anywhere else in the world where people would get so exciting about lavatories and 1s and 2s [^].

That said, I do agree with all the comments - it is people who make a mess, not small spaces even if they don't help.

On the wet floor issue, this is one reason why I've been frustrated by no socks in the PE amenity kit on the return from the US. They're needed to protect the feet in the bog, not keep 'em warm! Glad that VS have realised this, I believe there are socks in all directions in the new kit.

Please VS, invite your customers on to the bog committee too. Me me me [y]

Originally posted by goanmad
A window in the loo, now we are talking!

p.s. Could the window have a blind on it,just in case anyone looked in??

There is an airline which has windows in the lavs, but they're frosted, which defeats the purpose, if you ask me. Might be SQ, but I'm having a brain moment. Anyway, unless the a/c was on the ground at a gate next to a jetway/terminal, I don't believe anyone could see in. You wouldn't be inside it during taxi.

And for you men to ponder: women do not have your bladder capacity. If there was a window to the world, and a vacant throne, we might be doing the Dance of a Thousand Tortures whilst you read or look down upon the endless oceans, or whatever we're flying over. No scenery? No outside amusement? Thank you, move along! I think that's why so many airlines omit the window...

If there was a passing plane which could get into position so one of the pax on it could see you on the aerial in-flight throne, I'd be worried about far, far more than what might be seen uncovered by your clothing.

(Matter of fact, if a plane was that close to you in mid-air[:0], you'd be using that lavatory, filling it with a copious amount of #2.)

Just something to think about...

Maybe there should be a window that can open to let the smells out ------lol

[Bazz]

I always make sure I leave the head the way I would wish to find it, unfortunately few of my fellow pax seem to feel the same way [V]. I can only remember a handful of times when I have walked into a pristine head.

It is a pity there isn't some affordable monitoring device that could check floor, seat, sink. etc., as each pax leaves and then shame them by sounding an alarm if they have left it in a state .

It is a pity there isn't some affordable monitoring device that could check floor, seat, sink. etc., as each pax leaves

It's called the CX First Cabin crew who clean after every PAX visit:D

There is an airline which has windows in the lavs, but they're frosted, which defeats the purpose, if you ask me.

That would be BA and QF in first class,you can see out of the
window in flight,think it only goes dark on the ground.

SAA Econ toilets seemed better than Upper, with a very good selection (for Econ) of products to help you freshen up.... They were also cleaner and didn't smell (12 hr flight) (maybe it's because there were no Chavs on my my flights to Cape Town? 99% of passengers were very smartly dressed in all of the cabins.

That's it, on my next flight I shall dress like Vicki Pollard and frequently use the loo, only to leave it spotless and fresh. While doing so I shall look out for secret V-Flyers waiting to spot horribleness [}:)]

I can't believe I'm responding to a thread on this subject:

Back in the day (late 80s/early 90s), BA's video 'introducing the facilities available on this 747" used to include a request that passengers should wipe down wash basins after use 'as a courtesy to other passengers'. This is a practice I have followed ever since

Originally posted by jaguarpig
That would be BA and QF in first class,you can see out of the
window in flight,think it only goes dark on the ground.

Yes, it contains an LCD "blind" - it's connected to the sensor which detects if the main gear wheels are on the ground.

Mike

wipe down wash basins after use 'as a courtesy to other passengers'

ISTRC VS asking this in their WCs even recently[:?]

VS.

Am I the only one who think the sink needs an upgrade as well.

Trying to wash your hands is hard enough. The tap is too close to the basin so you end up wiping you hands against the dirty basin, which you now all tell me that people pee in[:$]

Oh my god, now no one on this site is going to use the loo, just in case we are being watched![?]

There have been times that there has been so much water on the floor you would have thought Shamu has done a show in the sink.[V][V]

When the two of us have used the loo we also tidy up and wipe down sinks and surfaces, pure courtesy.

Originally posted by slinky09
That's it, on my next flight I shall dress like Vicki Pollard and frequently use the loo, only to leave it spotless and fresh. While doing so I shall look out for secret V-Flyers waiting to spot horribleness [}:)]

Fascinating subject. As a builder that specialises in hospital hygene work there are several remedies for the problems. A small discreet drain could be inserted into the floor directly in front of the loo (constantly sucking) with the floor gently sloping in to it. This would enable the floor to be sluiced down hygenically. Also the only major air change is when the wc is flushed. It would be possible to have a low level breeze blowing over the floor to dry up minor amounts of fluid, without forcing any obnoxious odours into the main cabin.

I have also noticed that the wc itself on its top side does not have enough slope to self drain.

Oh I do wish I had specialised in computers or anything more interesting than loos

Tony T, believe it or not the air flow through the loo's is carefully controlled. The following are for the A340's

Firstly the sinks. In the drain line is a little float, when no water is in the line it closes to prevent excess cabin air being vented. When water goes down the sink drain (or overflow) it lifts the float & drains. It's these little components that you sometimes hear hissing.

Secondly, the air is vented through a small grill in the ceiling, this is then vented through a combined galley/lav vent adjacent to the outflow valve. Hence the nasty/smelly air is exhausted rather than recirculated. It is also this air that is passed over the smoke detecter sensor.

Your idea of a floor drain is already in place, the toilets are a sealed module & include a water drain.

As you can imagine the aircraft makers must make the most out of the smallest space (no profit in a toilet seat).

With ref to "A small discreet drain could be inserted into the floor directly in front of the loo (constantly sucking) with the floor gently sloping in to it". Good in theory, but have you ever been on an Airbus with a full toilet tank?? When the tank senses a high level it will stop the toilet suction system, but the individual toilet valve will still open. Hence the lavs get full & would back up through your little vent hole!!!!