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#38641 by Jonathan
12 Aug 2004, 12:38
quote:Originally posted by Boyle73
Hi

I am flying on Saturday from MAN to MCO just as Hurricane Charley is hitting Florida. Any ideas what VS will do, will they try to land or will we be diverted? Many thanks!


It depends on where the Hurricane is at that point..I've known planes be diverted to avoid bad storms but I guess you'll hvae to wait and see.

Obviously they will land @MCO if safe to do so..
#38656 by Boyle73
12 Aug 2004, 14:51
Just wondered as two years ago we were diverted to MIA for a bad thunder storm, and weather predicts the hurricane to be over Orlando as we arrive, so just wondered, we will have to wait and see!
#38668 by SRQ
12 Aug 2004, 19:20
I am in Sarasota now and the hurricane is predicted to hit here by 8pm tomorrow. The warning is for all along the West coast from the Keys up to past Tampa. The winds are predicted to travel right across Florida past MCO but should not affect flights out of MCO as they should have lost their intensity by the time they get there.
All this is subject to change hour by hour as they get new info.They are evacuating over 350,000 from the barrier islands so it will have some impact.
You haven't missed any sunshine, we've had solid rain (with one day of sunshine) for the last 2 weeks, hopefully, it'll be lovely after the weekend but don't hold your breath as 10'' has fallen in our area.[:(]
I have just spoken the the USA and UK FC and asked about flight status and so far everything is looking normal for the weekend.
As I get any further updates I'll let you know, that is as long as we don't loose power or the satellite.(in the boonies with no cable or DSL!!!)
#38673 by willd
12 Aug 2004, 19:59
flew last year back from ANU over the hurricane that was supposed to hit ANU but went for the Bahamas instead and despite beign bumpy and rainy the flight went ahead as normal! Just might be a wee bit bumpy
#38674 by AlanA
12 Aug 2004, 20:27
Latest information:-

Issued at: 1:42 PM EDT 8/12/04 (gateway).


Charley rapidly strengthens into a category two hurricane as it moves toward western cuba,

A hurricane warning remains in effect for the Florida keys from the dry tortugas to the seven mile bridge, and for the southwest florida coast from east cape sable to bonita beach. The warning will likely be extended northward later today or tonight. A hurricane warning means that hurricane conditions are expected within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion.

A hurricane watch remains in effect from north of bonita beach to the suwannee river. A hurricane watch means that hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area, generally within 36 hours.

A tropical storm warning remains in effect for the Florida keys from the seven mile bridge to ocean reef, and along the south Florida mainland from ocean reef to east cape sable, including all of florida bay. A tropical storm watch may be required for portions of the Florida east coast later today.

A hurricane warning remains in effect for the following provinces of western cuba, pinar del rio, la habana, ciudad de la habana, matanzas, and the isle of youth.

A hurricane warning remains in effect for the cayman islands. However, the warning will likely be discontinued later today.

At 2 pm edt, 1800z, information from reconnaissance aircraft and radars from cuba indicate the center of hurricane charley was located near latitude 20.4 north, longitude 81.5 west or about 190 miles, 305 km, south-southeast of havana cuba.

Charley is moving toward the northwest near 17 mph, 28 km/hr. A turn toward the north-northwest is expected later today or tonight. On the forecast track, charley is expected to pass over or just east of the isle of youth tonight.

Maximum sustained winds recently reported by an air force reserve reconnaissance aircraft are near 105 mph, 165 km/hr, with higher gusts. This makes charley a category two hurricane on the saffir-simpson hurricane scale. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours, and charley could become a category three or major hurricane before it makes landfall along the south coast of cuba.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 30 miles, 45 km, from the center, and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 125 miles, 205 km.

The minimum central pressure recently reported by reconnaissance aircraft was 980 mb, 28.94 inches.

Above normal tides, accompanied by large and dangerous battering waves, are expected in the cayman islands later today. Storm surge flooding of 2 to 4 feet can be expected in the Florida keys. Storm surge flooding of 6 to 10 feet are possible along the southwest florida coast.

Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inches are likely in association with charley. These rains could cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides.

Repeating the 2 pm edt position, 20.4 n, 81.5 w. Movement toward, northwest near 17 mph. Maximum sustained winds, 105 mph. Minimum central pressure, 980 mb.

And from Kissimmee City Council:-

DATE: August 12, 2004

TITLE: KISSIMMEE PROVIDES SANDBAGS

Kissimmee, FL- The City of Kissimmee Public Works and Engineering Department will provide sandbags to Kissimmee residents affected by Hurricane Charley.

The City has prepared approximately 1,000 sandbags. Residents may pick-up no more than 12 sandbags per household. The city asks recipients to supply valid ID to verify their address. The sandbags may be obtained at the Public Works service center located at 2201 Mabbette St., just behind the YMCA off Thacker Avenue. The facility will be open until 11:00 pm tonight and will reopen at 7:00 am Friday.

For details, please contact Dave Derrick, Assistant Director, at 407.518.2170.
#38679 by AlanA
12 Aug 2004, 21:27
Pan Am have cancelled their flights for tomorrow

AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THE STORMS PROGRESS -- AIRPORT OFFICIALS ARE PLANNING AS WELL RIGHT NOW PANAMERICAN AIRWAYS IS POSTPONING ALL FRIDAY FLIGHTS IF YOU ARE AFFECTED YOU CAN DO TO THEIR WEBSITE AT FLYPANAM DOT COM OR CALL 1-800-FLY-PANAM.
#38783 by eurohill
13 Aug 2004, 22:22
Looks like it is going through Orlando and appears VS15 is being diverted as arrival time is now shown as 8.00am tomorrow, although it departed on time.
#38788 by feistyblue
13 Aug 2004, 23:34
Further update - posted two hours ago - now a Cat 4. Apparently Delta have cancelle flights into and out of Orlando.


Just hours before Hurricane Charley prepared to slam into Florida's Gulf Coast , it swelled to a Category 4 storm, with maximum sustained winds of 145 mph, and its path veered to take it directly over Orlando.

The hurricane is "rapidly intensifying and moving toward the Florida coast," said Ben Nelson, state meteorologist.

Gov. Jeb Bush again warned coastal residents to take cover, and officials said the storm could bring heavy rain and 100 mph, hurricane-force winds to Central Florida.

As of 2 p.m., Hurricane Charley's projected path would have it making landfill around Port Charlotte on the Gulf Coast and then moving northwest across the state through Polk, Osceola, Orange, Seminole and Volusia counties, according to the National Hurricane Center.

That projected path would take it directly over the city of Orlando, creating the biggest threat the city has seen in decades, emergency officials said.

"There will be power outages, there will be downed trees, there will be flooding in low-lying areas," Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer said at a 1:30 p.m. news briefing from the city's Emergency Operations Center.

Emergency Management Director Manuel Soto said the city could be buffeted by hurricane-force winds for as much as 12 hours, starting in the late afternoon and lasting into the early-morning hours Saturday.

Orange County may soon open additional emergency shelters. Officials in Orange and Seminole recommended that those who live in mobile homes or who have special needs seek safe shelter. Other residents should remain in their homes.

Forecasters were evaluating reconnaissance data that seemed to indicate Charley's central pressure was dropping and that the storm was, as expected, intensifying.

"This is a very deadly storm that is approaching our beloved state," Bush said. "If you are in an evacuation area, you need to get to high ground now. There won't be another alert because it will be too late."

Officials expected it to make landfall around Port Charlotte at about 5 p.m. and get a storm surge of up to 20 feet.

"It will be to Orlando by midnight tonight," Nelson said.

Officials said the evacuation of coastal and low-lying areas in Charley's path was going well but that it was impossible to know the precise numbers of people fleeing or choosing to stay behind. The number of people evacuating could surpass the 2 million who fled their homes when Hurricane Floyd struck the Atlantic Coast in 1999, they said.

Late this morning, the hurricane was beginning to make its long-anticipated turn toward the northeast. If so, the storm could come in south of Tampa, putting Central Florida more in its path as it crosses the state.

"We've been forecasting it to turn more to the right. The question is: Is it doing it now and how sharply?'' said Ed Rappaport, assistant director of the National Hurricane Center in west Miami-Dade County.

Rappaport said forecasters do think it is now making that turn. "If so, it will bring the worst impact down the coast a little - maybe to the Sarasota-Fort Myers area,'' he said.

The Orlando area, officials said, is expected to get hurricane gusts, heavy rain, with the possibility of tornadoes and power outages.

"We should experience five to seven inches of rain and hurricane-force winds in Lake County and North Orange," Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said at an 11:15 a.m. news briefing.

County officials have urged residents to stay off the roads this afternoon and evening, so incoming Gulf Coast residents can make it to safety more quickly. Beary also asked people to avoid using their cellular telephones during the storm, so communications towers aren't overburdened.

Lynx officials said they would stop bus service at 3 p.m. today.

State officials said residents also should avoid the interstate system today, if possible. Bush said he may order closed parts of I-75 and I-10.

Orange County Chairman Rich Crotty said emergency workers and public works crews are preparing for the worst.

"There is some evidence that this storm is taking a turn for the worse," Crotty said.

Crotty signed two executive orders today related to the coming hurricane. The first authorizes emergency expenditures to deal with the storm and its aftermath. The second prohibits price gouging, which is also prohibited under state law. Business owners found to be gouging consumers can be fined $500 and jailed for 60 days.

"This is an opportunity to define ourselves and our community...in how we interact as neighbors, how we interact as friends and how we interact as a community," Crotty said. Bush said has spoken with President George W. Bush and has received early approval of disaster funding that will allow small business loans and family assistance.

And it that wasn't bad enough, Nelson added, hurricane trackers have reported another depression that could soon be a tropical storm southeast of Cuba and about five days away from Florida.

"This hurricane season is not starting out very well," Ben Nelson, the state meteorologist, said. "I'm spinning right now myself."
#38795 by Goldenoldie
14 Aug 2004, 07:30
Apparently the landfall was across the barrier islands off Fort Myers one of which is Sanibel. We have been there for summer hols for the last 14 years. The ave height of island above sea level is 2 feet. A 8 foot storm surge was predicted. Fortunately, there will have been a mandatory evacuation so nobody should be hurt.

On a lighter note, I am praying that the Lazy Flamingo on Sanibel is not damaged; they serve THE best buffalo wings .
cheers
GO
#38797 by Matt
14 Aug 2004, 12:29
Looks like the VS28 and VS50 were cancelled out of MCO yesterday as they are both now departing today at 17.00

Matt
#38801 by eurohill
14 Aug 2004, 13:24
Plus todays flights to Orlando VS15 and VS49 have been cancelled, no doubt due to lack of aircraft being in Boston & Miami
#38804 by Matt
14 Aug 2004, 13:57
Have just heard that all flights in and out of MCO today are cancelled due to damage at MCO.....don't know how reliable that source was though.

Matt
#38814 by philadam
14 Aug 2004, 22:44
I was thinking of our VF pals who may have been in Florida during the Hurricane and hope that everyone is safe. Matt, I know you replied to some of my posts when I went there in May. I hope your property has escaped any trouble[:(]

My friends from the US own land in Port Charlotte, where it made landfall as a Cat 4 Hurricane. Fortunately Cathy does only own land rather than any buildings. It must have been quite frightening to be caught in the middle of the night with those 145mph winds. The Michael Fish "Hurricane" of '87 was bad enough, but these Hurricanes are on a different level![:0]

I hope our friends holidaying in Florida at the moment are safe and well and those that were able to, managed to get there OK.

Phil
#38816 by stylo4444
15 Aug 2004, 01:38
I live in Orlando and we were out of electricity for just about 24 hours...thank God it's back. Orlando looks very different...I never thought I'd see a day where I would be surrounded by this much destruction. House has minor damages, that aren't too bad...but evreyone is safe. Neighborhood is an absolute mess...I'll be honest, it was the scariest 2 hours of my life easily. Imagine sitting in a closet, and all of a sudden you hear debris hitting your roof...and then you hear a loud noise that sounds like a freight train...it was just devastating. It will take months to clean all of Orlando up...hope everyone else in the area is doing just fine. My area was hit with the eye of the Hurricane, and it was brutal.
#38824 by SRQ
15 Aug 2004, 15:42
Just got power back last night, only lost a couple of trees,we were lucky. I'm just about to leave to help a friend who lost everything in Myakka, no roof, no home, and more rain predicted. we are just going to try to get anything that we can salvage out and in the dry.
I can not believe that Charley became a Cat 4 so suddenly, if it had travelled a few miles further up the coast before turning then it would have been very scary for us. The bad news is that tropical storm Earl appears to be forming along the same path as Charley and will reach Cuba by Wed/Thursday. I don't think I'll bother taking the patio furniture out of the pool just yet!!
We had friends from England who were evacuated off the beach in Sarasota and drove to MCO to be safer, I hope that they are ok.
Hope that everyone who went through the storm are safe and suffered minimal damage.
#38856 by peternoble
16 Aug 2004, 14:32
With yesterdays flights now going to/from Heathrow, do VS lay on transport & hotels last night for affected passengers?


Thanks,
Peter
#38864 by declansmith
16 Aug 2004, 17:34
Hotels would not be provided by the hotel as the delay is caused by weather, which is out of the airlines control.
#38867 by Bazz
16 Aug 2004, 17:54
Hi Peter and welcome aboard,

As Declan says this delay is not down to the airlines so they have no liability, you would need to rely on your own travel insurance and make sure the T&C's don't preclude this risk.
#38917 by willd
17 Aug 2004, 14:14
Arrival at LHR this morning:

VS116 from MCO landed at 10.21am
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