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#256147 by JAT74L
16 Sep 2008, 18:59
Anyone got a V+ box with their VM telly service?

Did something I'd been meaning to do for ages today - threaten to leave and go to SKY unless they (VM) came up with something worthwhile. Ended up saving about 20 a month and got a V+ box coming on Fri so any comments would be welcome.

John
#454198 by Nottingham Nick
16 Sep 2008, 19:04
I will be interested in how you get on with Virgin compared to Sky, John.

I detest Sky with a passion, and have also threatened to leave times many; but the Sky+ box, with its series link is so good that I have always stuck with them.

I am looking to consolidate my TV, phone and internet to one provider but don't know which way, and when to jump. [:?]

Nick
#454200 by Guest
16 Sep 2008, 19:18
We have Virgin V+ XL in our London properties and love it. No problems (so far) with very good customer services when required and excellent fibre Broad Band. Apart from not getting Sky News now, I would never have Sky services (which we have on Mersea as we are not cable there) over Virgin where there is a choice.

Enjoy !


Hackneyguy
#454201 by JAT74L
16 Sep 2008, 20:08
Originally posted by Nottingham Nick
I will be interested in how you get on with Virgin compared to Sky, John.

I detest Sky with a passion, and have also threatened to leave times many; but the Sky+ box, with its series link is so good that I have always stuck with them.

I am looking to consolidate my TV, phone and internet to one provider but don't know which way, and when to jump. [:?]

Nick


I'm still with VM Nick and have never been with SKY so can't compare. I'd heard that VM were keen to capture the main share of the market and were keen to hold onto customers. I rung them up with a SKY price package in front of me on the laptop and basically said I was leaving. After a bit haggling over the cost of re-instating 2 BT landlines I happily came to a deal for M size broadband (2Mb), XL TV (quite a lot of rubbish but now able to sift out the best bits with the V+) and XL phone (unlimited UK calls 24/7) plus a second landline for £51 a month.

Locked in for 12 months so it'll do till 2009!

John
#454222 by pjh
16 Sep 2008, 22:28
No experience of the V+ service - the availability of iPlayer does the business for me - but I managed to get a phone / broadband / TV package for less than I was paying for the broadband on its own.[?]

The only downside is that the caller recognition on the phone line seems to have problems with my model of phone (only about 6 months old) despite paying for caller id. Nor does it seem to transmit the id properly, as calls from home to my mobile now come up as 'Withheld' despite the fact we aren't witholding the number.

Paul
#454234 by Slipperman
16 Sep 2008, 22:55
We have the VM VIP package (although may downsize soon)

It has 20M Broadband, The XL TV package (+Sky sports and Movies) Free UK call 24/7 and reduce mobile and international calls. It has the V+ box and a second (non V+) box as well.

It's £85 a month. Great if you use everything (we didn;t we found, hence thinking of the downsize)

Broadband servie is great (v little downtime), TV quality good, The upscaling on the V+ box is very good.

Downside is the lack of HD content on VM though.
#454240 by Sealink
16 Sep 2008, 23:27
I've never liked Sky, and was offered a cut price deal from a friend who works for them. I still refused.
The thing is, it depends what you watch, because Freeview covers so much now (Dave, Film4, More4, E4, 4Music, BBC1 - 4, ITV 1 - 4, UKHistory etc.) and I find that the extra channels Sky offers (Bravo, SciFi, History channel etc.) actually don't offer that much - at least whenever I've flicked through the channels at a pals house.

My next purchase will be a Freeview PVR... maybe with a TopUpTV box (Although I found TUTV to be pretty flakey)

(NB - Virgin don't cover my part of London as I'd liked to have tried them)
#454256 by Pete
17 Sep 2008, 00:51
Was originally with NTL (ComTel) back when it was analogue cable, then when to Sky when NTL's digital offering was a bit pants and the Sky dish was the bees-knees. Then went back to Virgin Media and got 4 of those V+ boxes all over the house. Found the picture quality to be better (couldn't stand the way Sky would bear up in a rainstorm, even with an upgraded dish screwed to the house) - also, the broadband is proper fast, rather than just theoretically fast if you happen to live next door to the telephone exchange. Got a good deal on the four V+ boxes, plus all the movie channels, 20MB broadband and free calls to 01/02 numbers on the phone. My only grumble is the lack of live HD content (plenty on the VoD service, but only BBC HD on the channel line up). It's probably not enough to convince me to go back to the evil Murdoch organisation, but I may add FreeSat to the mix if the HD line up improves.

The V+ boxes themselves are pretty reasonable PVRs. They do all the things you'd expect, like series recording, pause, rewind, etc, and they give you access to a hell of a lot of on-demand content, much of which is free (especially on the XL package). You also get BBC iPlayer on Virgin, which is pretty good. The interface is (IMHO) slightly better than Sky+, since you don't lose the current channel when you jump into the tv guide, but not quite as intuitive as TiVo, which I still think has the best user interface out there (although the TiVo itself is pretty much a dead platform in the UK now)

Pete
#454296 by fozzyo
17 Sep 2008, 11:17
Wasn't TiVo owned by Sky or something in the UK?

We have V+ 20Meg broadband, inclusive 01 and 02 calls. Love it! As pete Says the Broadband is fast, I've just checked on speedtest.net and I have a download speed of 16348kbps and upload of 707kbps so happy with that.

The TV service is good, the only thing we don't get is Sky 1 which is sometimes a bugger - no Lost of Battlestar Gallactica on TV, but we've got over that. The ondemand and catchup facility is really good and we use that a lot.

Mat
#454301 by Pete
17 Sep 2008, 11:42
Nah, TiVo did a deal with Sky so they handled the customer service and billing in the UK, but never been owned by them.

BTW, Fozz - haven't you checked the on demand stuff - Lost is in there. Battlestar Gallactica may also be (or, at least on the way). It was one of Virgin's goals to get all the Sky One prime shows in the on demand list when they had the spat over the channel.

One other thing I forgot to mention about the V+ box; it has three 'tuners', which means it can record two programmes while you simultaneously watch a third. And even if that's not enough, the catch up on demand means most of the good stuff is saved centrally for a week, so if you forgot to record it, you can still watch it anyway.
#454309 by sbg
17 Sep 2008, 12:30
We've recently moved house and have had to move from VM to Sky (no cable in the new estate yet). I have to say that I thought the Sky sustomer service to be much better than VM!
The Sky+ functionality is much the same, although the lack of picture-in-menu thing is a bit of a pain in the rear. My wife is also missing VM's excellent Catch-up TV service, although having talked to Sky about this, they plan to bring something similar on line in October.
I like the Sports HD channels, which you can't get with VM!
#454313 by McMaddog
17 Sep 2008, 12:54
Originally posted by Pete
the TiVo itself is pretty much a dead platform in the UK now)

My TiVo is quite happily working sitting under the TV right now - what a shame they weren't able to find a hardware manufacturer to keep the production going. The Sky interface is mind numbingly slow and stupid. Highlight a later program and press i. Oh wait, you can only do that in the full TV guide screen!
#454320 by jaguarpig
17 Sep 2008, 14:24
V+ box is very easy to use,one touch recording for a whole series, it has 3 tuners so can record 2 programs at the same time as you are watching a 3rd,HD picture is excellent. The Downsides, it makes a bit of a racket (discs and fans) and is prone to the odd lock up and no sky one.
#454325 by Neil
17 Sep 2008, 14:53
Originally posted by sbg
The Sky+ functionality is much the same, although the lack of picture-in-menu thing is a bit of a pain in the rear.


Sky are changing their EPG soon (next month I think) and IIRC it will be more like the VM/Tivo with the live picture staying whilst you search.

I like the Sports HD channels, which you can't get with VM!


Not just sport but general lack of HD channels. I really struggle to watch non HD tv now, especially sport, it really is excellent.
#454442 by JAT74L
18 Sep 2008, 09:43
Thanks for all the replies folks - it arrives tomorrow!

Regards

John
#454509 by VS075
19 Sep 2008, 00:33
Originally posted by Neil
I really struggle to watch non HD tv now, especially sport, it really is excellent.


I thought HD wasn't available to Hull residents? [;)]
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