!-94W left in passport - advice please

I thought that I would seek advice from you clever people!

I took my mate to Las vegas in Dec 04, on his return the Virgin Handling agent "Swissport" forgot to collect the 1-94W slip stapled into the passport..

So technically the INS think he is in the country still. I have asked several Immigration officers in different state for advice... some say he should write in with evidence he left, some say he should fill in a form before arrival which nobody knows where to get it, some say that he should contact the Embassy!

we have racked our brains and trying to think what official documet would prove he left the country?

Any suggestions, Thank you Outsourced ground agents in LAS for this one!

[mcmbenjamin]

Full detials here: US Embassy London

BTW: The address is London, KY, United States just to provent any confusion.

Also: Do not mail the I-94/I-94W to the Embassy

Follow the instructions here:

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/cbp/i94.html

It happened to me when I made a land departure from the US into Canada, I just mailed the departure record off, along with evidence that I returned the rental car I was using to Montreal Airport (a copy of the return reciept from the rental car company).

I've not had any issues getting into the US that appear to have been caused by that, indeed, I travelled to the US again very shortly after that incident, and there wasn't a problem.

Cheers,
Mike

Originally posted by mike-smashing
Follow the instructions here:

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/cbp/i94.html

It happened to me when I made a land departure from the US into Canada, I just mailed the departure record off, along with evidence that I returned the rental car I was using to Montreal Airport (a copy of the return reciept from the rental car company).

I've not had any issues getting into the US that appear to have been caused by that, indeed, I travelled to the US again very shortly after that incident, and there wasn't a problem.

Cheers,
Mike

Did a similar thing to Mike - but first took the precaution of making copies of everything I'd sent then and took that along for my next flight. I've not had any problems.

[Decker]

Can anyone see THIS coming? .

This also happened to me last January out of SFO. Seeing that I was attending a function on Park Lane the following month I decided to call into the American Embassy (which is just around the corner) to hand it in.
After explaining to the very nice lady in the visa section, she took the slip from me and disappeared. Two minutes later she returned and said yeap thats OK we see you left San Francisco on the 1st February.
Just goes to show big brother is watching!;)

[preiffer]

One advantage of the new DHS "Exit Machines" is that you now get a receipt when you leave the country.

Mad barcode aside, I've started keeping my most recent one with me when flying into the US.

I thought they logged all passport number exits on a system somewhere anyway.

Paul

[preiffer]

Originally posted by p17blo
I thought they logged all passport number exits on a system somewhere anyway.

They do, but the DHS receipts are issued after security (ie: it was definitely YOU that went to the plane). Passports are swiped at check-in, and the boarding pass matched to it - but I'm sure there's a loophole in that process somewhere.

This almost happened to me on my last trip to EWR as well. I noticed I still had the form inside my passport after check-in, and handed it over to the staff at the gate before boarding. Hopefully they handed it on, but if not I might find out when I return next month!

Just as a matter of info, where are the machines to get an exit receipt located in EWR? In the "rocking chair" area after security or elsewhere?

This happened to the both of us. We were advised to keep the boarding pass as proof that we left the country.

The other half (Brisith passport) handed his in at US immigration when he next flew into the US and was told off by them. Not our fault really.

I have been in and out of the US several times since and I have a US visa in my (non-British) passport and have never mentioned this. Given that US immigration should have more details on my movements given my US visa which gets scanned everytime I go into the US, nothing has ever been raised. I would argues that my entries into the US since (with stamp in passport) would be prima facie proof that I did leave the US at some stage. I also have my Tier points and Miles on my VS statement as further proof of this.

Depsite all this US hysteria regarding board control, does anyone actually match off the exit slip with the entry details after all the iris scanning and finger printing.

Originally posted by preiffer

Originally posted by p17blo
I thought they logged all passport number exits on a system somewhere anyway.

They do, but the DHS receipts are issued after security (ie: it was definitely YOU that went to the plane). Passports are swiped at check-in, and the boarding pass matched to it - but I'm sure there's a loophole in that process somewhere.

You've lost me with the DHS receipts. Whenever I travel they remove the I-94W stub at check-in. So where to the DHS receipts come in?

Paul

I have had this happen a number of times and nothing happens.

Thanks everyone for your comments.... maybe he should just go in as normal and if they question it play ignorant to it!!

Sorry to drag up an old topic, but I've just notice a mate of mine has the Green visa waiver slip still in their passport from Transiting LAX in April back from Auckland with QF/BA.

We want to go to SFO around 20th Oct.... anyone know if we post the details this weekend whether we've got enough time before 20 Oct to get this sorted out?

Originally posted by V-Ben
Sorry to drag up an old topic, but I've just notice a mate of mine has the Green visa waiver slip still in their passport from Transiting LAX in April back from Auckland with QF/BA.

We want to go to SFO around 20th Oct.... anyone know if we post the details this weekend whether we've got enough time before 20 Oct to get this sorted out?

Mine was left in my passport too. Had no problems when I went back. I wouldn't be too concerned.

The last time my I-94W was left in my passport on departure from the USA, I just removed it myself & binned it. I did not have any problems entering the USA afterwards either.

Originally posted by Kraken
The last time my I-94W was left in my passport on departure from the USA, I just removed it myself & binned it. I did not have any problems entering the USA afterwards either.

Likewise. I'm sorry, I just don't have time for all this rubbish. I binned mine, fully expecting to get hauled over the coals on my return to Miami, but nothing. My excuse was going to be that I had it at check in and not after on my last flight....[:I]

It happens all the time - don't worry!

It happens all the time. I once didn't have mine taken out and was still in there on my next trip, the immigration guy just handed it to me and said have a momento of your last visit!!

But just to be sure I wouldn't worry about it but take a couple of documnets such as the payslip you got the month you returned home and that should serve as proof enough you left the country.

You all are making me wonder now. Where I work for DL is a big college town, and we get a lot of students that travel out at the end of semesters (who are in the country on student visa's). I can honestly say that I've never taken a used visa out of a passport, but I will now double-check out procedure. It could be that I've been missing this all this time.

We double-check that they have all visa and other requirements for entrance in their destination city, but I've never collected something used up on their stay in the United States.

Hmmmmmmm...

[mcmbenjamin]

Mike: At your station your clients are not leaving the country. If they were you should collect the 94W.

When I have checked in for a transatlantic journey home (but with an internal US flight as the first leg), the I-94W is normally removed from the passport & stapled to the boarding card for the flight that takes me out of the USA.

When you re-check / board at the gate for the international flight, they remove the I-94W and stamp your boarding card with something along the lines of "I-94 removed ORD" [or other airport code]. This is what always seems to happen with American Airlines.