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#149893 by vs_itsallgood
02 Dec 2006, 23:57
Originally posted by VS045
After touting up the JFK CH, I wonder if that would be a serious option. They'd have to put one in at EWR. The cost of dumping one/constructing another would be significant.

If a move to EWR is done, I hope VS takes the noise/privacy complaints to heart and drops the open plan.


Also, there is a CH at EWR already.

VS.

BTW, I do love the staff at EWR and the VS018.:D

Yeah, I should never post on multiple forums on limited sleep.

EWR has a CH (but you would think I didn't remember that [:I]). My bad. Perhaps I should have stated: if VS intend on carrying more capacity out of EWR by dropping JFK, they'll need to expand EWR's CH and put in a BIGGER one. I don't see that happening, what with the cost of such a rebuild and the construction cost of JFK ending up as an expensive writeoff. I really can't see VS selling it to another carrier lock, stock, and barrel, can you?

Right now both CH see pax loads all year; dropping one altogether would mean lesser service IMHO unless the lounge remaining was enlarged/revised. If EWR is revised, the open plan is not a winner with many (or at least travelers I have spoken with).

JFK has a *few* competing carriers, so they are getting a bonus out of touting privacy in their lounges. Newark has a few, also; if service in the CH slows down due to the sheer number of pax, that will be a selling point for the other carriers as well. 'Come to OUR lounge! Come here, get more room, more service, and blah blah' will be their mantra.

I'd rather not see that happen. If the choices are JFK and EWR, or JFK alone, or EWR alone, I have to go with EWR alone, with one caveat: expand the CH. Or keep things as they are. I may not prefer the open plan (and I don't like JFK as a whole for multiple reasons; unless I MUST connect there, I never go there), but I'd rather be in JFK's CH than sit in two airports' worth of people at EWR and be glad my flight's been called. Glad to hear my flight's boarding while at a CH? [:?] (shudder)

JFK alone? Let's not even mention that seriously, shall we? I jokingly call it AWP, for Avoid Whenever Possible...
#149931 by VS045
03 Dec 2006, 14:39
I don't think you'll have to worry though, vs_itsallgood, there is no serious plan to switch to one airport.

VS.
#149941 by VS-EWR
03 Dec 2006, 16:23
Originally posted by vs_itsallgood
Yeah, I should never post on multiple forums on limited sleep.

EWR has a CH (but you would think I didn't remember that [:I]). My bad. Perhaps I should have stated: if VS intend on carrying more capacity out of EWR by dropping JFK, they'll need to expand EWR's CH and put in a BIGGER one. I don't see that happening, what with the cost of such a rebuild and the construction cost of JFK ending up as an expensive writeoff. I really can't see VS selling it to another carrier lock, stock, and barrel, can you?

Right now both CH see pax loads all year; dropping one altogether would mean lesser service IMHO unless the lounge remaining was enlarged/revised. If EWR is revised, the open plan is not a winner with many (or at least travelers I have spoken with).

JFK has a *few* competing carriers, so they are getting a bonus out of touting privacy in their lounges. Newark has a few, also; if service in the CH slows down due to the sheer number of pax, that will be a selling point for the other carriers as well. 'Come to OUR lounge! Come here, get more room, more service, and blah blah' will be their mantra.

I'd rather not see that happen. If the choices are JFK and EWR, or JFK alone, or EWR alone, I have to go with EWR alone, with one caveat: expand the CH. Or keep things as they are. I may not prefer the open plan (and I don't like JFK as a whole for multiple reasons; unless I MUST connect there, I never go there), but I'd rather be in JFK's CH than sit in two airports' worth of people at EWR and be glad my flight's been called. Glad to hear my flight's boarding while at a CH? [:?] (shudder)

JFK alone? Let's not even mention that seriously, shall we? I jokingly call it AWP, for Avoid Whenever Possible...


Taking it much too seriously...
#149946 by RichardMannion
03 Dec 2006, 16:43
Well I can see the ORD fares in ExpertFlyer - valid from 1/4/07.

Thanks,
Richard
#149955 by The_Banking_Scot
03 Dec 2006, 18:50
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Well I can see the ORD fares in ExpertFlyer - valid from 1/4/07.

Thanks,
Richard


Richard,

Just to clarify, that would be VS fares to ORD from April Fool's day 2007?

Very interesting!-maybe special uc fares in the offing?[}:)]

Regards

TBS
#149973 by VS-EWR
04 Dec 2006, 03:19
Originally posted by The_Banking_Scot
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Well I can see the ORD fares in ExpertFlyer - valid from 1/4/07.

Thanks,
Richard


Richard,

Just to clarify, that would be VS fares to ORD from April Fool's day 2007?

Very interesting!-maybe special uc fares in the offing?[}:)]

Regards

TBS


Well it could also be January 4, 2007 for us American folks.
#149977 by slinky09
04 Dec 2006, 08:56
Well I too can see VS fares for ORD in April 2007, £2,299 for a Z UC fare, however the destination is CHI for Chicago area airports ...

Also, I see flight numbers 53 LHR-BOS and 54 BOS-LHR and 55 LHR-IAD and 56 IAD-LHR listed, these presumably being the second daily flights to those destinations?

All very good. However to the VS planners, please add Buenos Aires.
#149980 by jamie
04 Dec 2006, 09:34
I guess they'll announce these fully once it's all loaded into the various GDS systems. It shows in expert flyer but not on a lot of other databases yet.
#149995 by willd
04 Dec 2006, 11:18
Looks like all will be known today.

SRB has called a press conference in Chicago with the mayor. It is a VS press conference rather than another virgin company.

Will be interesting to see if he just announces ORD or if they will announce YYZ, 2nd IAD, 2nd BOS. Or if he announces anything at all.

Is to be held at 11am local.

And I have just seen it in the FT.
#150013 by Gpik
04 Dec 2006, 12:26
The Second IAD has already been released to employees, was posted on here a couple of months ago. My understanding is the second BOS will be from LGW 4 times per week
#150020 by Nottingham Nick
04 Dec 2006, 13:21
With regards to Chicago.

See this post by vitb.

Whilst there is already some Chicago discussion in this thread, it would probably be best if Chicago is discussed in the new thread, and this is left for speculation about other new routes.

Nick
Virgin Atlantic

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