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#168009 by Scrooge
17 Apr 2007, 13:37
Well when dealing with California airports we normally check in, go through secuirty to get a gauge on how long it is taking, then go back outside for a smoke.With LHR and it's BS security lines you just can't do this.

I am one of the lucky ones, I have np's not smoking for 14 hrs, though I will say if I book VS I WILL be flying through SFO, the landside CH makes life easy and compared to LAX security is a breeze.
#168094 by Darren Wheeler
17 Apr 2007, 20:52
I can see BAA, VS, BA et all being really strict on anyone who breaches the ban. Any individual is liable to a £50 fine and the company is liable for a £2500 fine for each seperate breach. That could cost a whole lot of wonga in just one day.
#168108 by David
17 Apr 2007, 23:02
We have had the "smoking police" up here for a little while now. They are actually Trading Standards Officer as they have official powers which can be used with the smoking act in Scotland.

Don't know if the same would apply in England.

All that happens now, is that you fight your way through a group of people standing at the door of a public building to get in (thats if you can see the door for the haze [}:)])

It seems to be very well policed or maybe it's just that everyone has accepted the decision. Again the downside is that some elderly are intimidated by the crowds that now stand in the street.

David
#168109 by honey lamb
17 Apr 2007, 23:15
Originally posted by David
We have had the "smoking police" up here for a little while now. They are actually Trading Standards Officer as they have official powers which can be used with the smoking act in Scotland.

Don't know if the same would apply in England.

All that happens now, is that you fight your way through a group of people standing at the door of a public building to get in (thats if you can see the door for the haze [}:)])

It seems to be very well policed or maybe it's just that everyone has accepted the decision. Again the downside is that some elderly are intimidated by the crowds that now stand in the street.

David

I think it's probably "accepted the decision". We've had the smoking ban for three years now and everyone was amazed at how quickly everyone accepted it. There was a school of thought that said that the Irish would only give a token nod to the legislation and after a few days it would be back to usual but that never happened. Here it is policed by Environmental Health Officers (what a nice job to go into pubs as part of your working routine and mingle with the crowd). There are some pubs who have lock-ins and allow people to smoke but EHOs can't police that because they are effectively breaking the law by so doing.

The other side of it was that the craic outside many pubs was better than within and people took to drinking outside. In some areas they had to introduce by-laws about this because it did seem intimidating but on the other hand a book was published about the best pubs to be outside in Dublin!
#168111 by AlanA
17 Apr 2007, 23:34
The Policing of the new smoking law will be in the hands of the Local Authority and for the purposes of public houses and clubs tied to the Licencing committees.
The other public areas will come under the juristriction of the Envionmental Health Officers
#168116 by honey lamb
18 Apr 2007, 00:01
I presume that within your legislation there are powers of prosecution? Over here there have been surprisingly few prosecutions and what has continued to amaze me is the number of people I know that are die-hard smokers and are likely to take the view "It doesn't apply to me" who have meekly stood up, picked up their packet of fags and lighter and have trotted outside for a smoke
#168132 by AlanA
18 Apr 2007, 09:29
Yes, there are fines for both the smoker and the owner of the premises/car etc.
Taxi drivers are already complaining that it will make their job harder and more dangerous, with drunks refusing not to light up.
Publicans and taxi drivers can have their licences revoked by the Local authority for persistant breaking of the new law.
#168134 by Bean Counter
18 Apr 2007, 09:34
Originally posted by AlanA

Taxi drivers are already complaining that it will make their job harder and more dangerous, with drunks refusing not to light up.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think drunks should be driving taxis, let alone smoking.:D
#168139 by AlanA
18 Apr 2007, 09:51
Originally posted by GrinningJackanapes
Originally posted by Bean Counter
Originally posted by AlanA

Taxi drivers are already complaining that it will make their job harder and more dangerous, with drunks refusing not to light up.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think drunks should be driving taxis, let alone smoking.:D


I surrender my throne...you are the new me.

That was FAWKIN' 'ILARIOUS! (as Dot Cotton would say).

GJ


Cannot sleep GJ?
#168149 by AlanA
18 Apr 2007, 10:21
No surgery is fun GJ.
All the very best with yours tomorrow (today?)

Do tell us all how it went.
#168153 by Decker
18 Apr 2007, 10:33
Who were you planning on reassigning your gender to?
#168156 by Bean Counter
18 Apr 2007, 10:41
What's this got to do with smoking? Where's Mitchja when you need him?

:)
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