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#456468 by jaguarpig
09 Oct 2008, 10:52
Originally posted by slinky09
Originally posted by easygoingeezer
It says on the VA pre-order site that bubbly can be pre ordered and drunk any time during the flight so I will get one to be on the safe side, if I don't need it, it will do for the limo after.


Sparkling idea EGG [:p]




So I pay for an UC ticket and then have to Buy my own Fizz[V]

Champagne running out on a flight was one of the events that prompted me to jump to BA over 3 years ago.

As for BYOB, nope, not allowed.

Howard has been known to take the odd bottle of Ch‰teau d'Yquem onboard SQ[;)]
#456469 by Boo Boo
09 Oct 2008, 12:09
Originally posted by jaguarpig
So I pay for an UC ticket and then have to Buy my own Fizz[V]


Sort of why I was joking earlier...

Originally posted by jaguarpig
Champagne running out on a flight was one of the events that prompted me to jump to BA over 3 years ago.


I am a complete 'airline tart' and generally jump around anyway... I think that the LHR Clubhouse is great, I like the Virgin seats to sleep in (although other airlines now have the same seats too), but there are lots that I like about BA too (more sociable seats, more consistent crews, seat still good for sleeping in, food generally good, more routes etc...). Husband has a soft spot for Virgin (maybe the pretty cabin crew... [ii] ), so we have done a few more VS flights over the past couple of years...

We are going to LA over Christmas, haven't booked that yet - so we will see... Champagne isn't exactly a deal breaker, but since we pretty much jump between airlines anyway, hardly any champagne on the last flight doesn't do much to entice us to stay either...

Boo
#456470 by vizbiz
09 Oct 2008, 12:29
Running out of champagne shortly after take-off speaks volumes about the disdain VAA has for it's premium cabin customers. Really worth ratcheting up the pressure on Virgin to get its act together on this ridiculous short-coming. Come on VAA, stop behaving like Ryanair - it's disgraceful.[V]
#456471 by Sealink
09 Oct 2008, 12:36
If it is cost cutting, it's really short sighted, especially knowing the wholesale price for bottles of a decent enough champagne...
#456474 by mdvipond
09 Oct 2008, 13:04
Originally posted by Boo Boo
Husband has a soft spot for Virgin (maybe the pretty cabin crew... [ii] )

For the uninitiated, are we to assume from this that BA crew have looks akin to a bulldog chewing a wasp...?
#456483 by ambyuk
09 Oct 2008, 14:40
Sure this isn't all part of the 'reduce weight onboard wherever we can' thing that airlines seem to be doing now?
#456484 by Boo Boo
09 Oct 2008, 14:44
Originally posted by mdvipond
Originally posted by Boo Boo
Husband has a soft spot for Virgin (maybe the pretty cabin crew... [ii] )

For the uninitiated, are we to assume from this that BA crew have looks akin to a bulldog chewing a wasp...?


No!!! Don't suggest that - I will get beaten up on my next BA flight... [B)]

Let us just say that you get the impression that VS places looks and youth fairly high on it's recruitment requirements... [:X]

BA cabin crew, especially in it's premium cabins, can often be more on the mature side. We flew back on CO (in BusinessFirst) and the cabin crew on that flight were definitely more mature, senior cabin crew (late 40s/early 50s mostly - really knew what they were doing and how to deliver good customer service). They were a fantastic crew, I thought.

That doesn't mean that all non-VS crews are old and ugly: I like more senior crews and I often find men in their late 30s and 40s (and older sometimes) very attractive [:I]. That doesn't mean that all VS crews are employed for their shallow good looks: many have great customer service skills too.

Ok, have I bailed myself out or just dug myself deeper in...? [:I]

Thanks mdvipond...! [:(!]

Boo
#456487 by Slipperman
09 Oct 2008, 15:11
Originally posted by Boo Boo

I often find men in their late 30s and 40s (and older sometimes) very attractive [:I].
Ok, have I bailed myself out or just dug myself deeper in...? [:I]



Boo


dug yourself deeper..?

.....No, No, Not at all.. [y]


Dave (age 51)
#456488 by jaguarpig
09 Oct 2008, 15:37
BA tend to have more male cabin crew in the front cabins,but not noticed much difference in the stewies, the older ones tend to be the seniors.Now AA thats a different matter[:D].I couldn't give a toss what they look like or how old as long as the service is good(AA crews were all fantastic on our most recent trip,better than BA on the way out by a mile).
#456491 by mdvipond
09 Oct 2008, 15:53
Originally posted by Boo Boo
Originally posted by mdvipond
Originally posted by Boo Boo
Husband has a soft spot for Virgin (maybe the pretty cabin crew... [ii] )

For the uninitiated, are we to assume from this that BA crew have looks akin to a bulldog chewing a wasp...?


No!!! Don't suggest that - I will get beaten up on my next BA flight... [B)]

Let us just say that you get the impression that VS places looks and youth fairly high on it's recruitment requirements... [:X]

BA cabin crew, especially in it's premium cabins, can often be more on the mature side. We flew back on CO (in BusinessFirst) and the cabin crew on that flight were definitely more mature, senior cabin crew (late 40s/early 50s mostly - really knew what they were doing and how to deliver good customer service). They were a fantastic crew, I thought.

That doesn't mean that all non-VS crews are old and ugly: I like more senior crews and I often find men in their late 30s and 40s (and older sometimes) very attractive [:I]. That doesn't mean that all VS crews are employed for their shallow good looks: many have great customer service skills too.

Ok, have I bailed myself out or just dug myself deeper in...? [:I]

Thanks mdvipond...! [:(!]

Boo


That has to be some of the finest hole digging I've had the pleasure of experiencing in quite sometime:

BA and CO crew - often male, mostly old 'n' ugly (which is OK, as apparenlty you like that in your men)

VS crew - beautiful, but oh so dim. Think Kelly Brook with social skills.

Now, let's slag off EasyJet crew - that should be fun!
#456497 by Boo Boo
09 Oct 2008, 18:05
Originally posted by mdvipond

That has to be some of the finest hole digging I've had the pleasure of experiencing in quite sometime:


Oh well, Slipperman (aged 51) liked it.... [8D]

Originally posted by mdvipond
BA and CO crew - often male, mostly old 'n' ugly (which is OK, as apparenlty you like that in your men)


Mr Boo Boo might be reading this! In which case I would be in real trouble anyway.... [:I]. He is 36 years old (birthday 2 days ago) and very cute. (I have to say that, incase he is reading this!)

I don't know, some men gain a certain charm and quiet confidence with age and that is lovely.

Originally posted by mdvipond
VS crew - beautiful, but oh so dim. Think Kelly Brook with social skills.


Hence why my husband likes VS... [:#]

Boo
#456528 by catsilversword
10 Oct 2008, 06:48
Slight side step here, but on a PE flight earlier this year (MCO-LGW), we were offered a glass of sparkling wine before take-off. Sparkling wine????? Didn't PE used to to offer champagne/bucks fizz/oj before take off? Maybe I'm misremembering, but if so, then both of us look at each other in astonishment. Cost cutting again???
#456539 by HighFlyer
10 Oct 2008, 11:15
Claire, that change happened some time ago. It was indeed Champagne in PE but now only sparkling wine, and not particularly nice sparkling wine at that.

Thanks,
Sarah
#456542 by jaguarpig
10 Oct 2008, 11:39
Slight side step here, but on a PE flight earlier this year (MCO-LGW), we were offered a glass of sparkling wine before take-off. Sparkling wine?????


On my last flight in upper the crew served that muck before take off.They denied the deed when challenged but even with my frazzled pallet there is a massive difference between cat wee wee and a nice drop of Charles Heidsieck.
#456545 by Sealink
10 Oct 2008, 13:07
I love Prosecco. Is there something wrong with me? :O
#456563 by Boo Boo
10 Oct 2008, 16:14
Originally posted by Sealink
I love Prosecco. Is there something wrong with me? :O


Depends on the Prosecco... I have had some ok ones and some pretty awful ones...

It is like Cava - there are some good Cavas out there.

M&S do some good Cavas (I like their Vintage Brut) and sparkling wines (a very good English Sparkling Rose).

Boo
#456636 by mike-smashing
11 Oct 2008, 10:28
VS need to get themselves out of this bizarre practice of round-tripping the drinks carts from the UK, at least to the downline locations where there is a decent bonded storage available at the flight kitchen (i.e. almost all of them).

For the uninitiated, all alcohol, on all VS flights, is round tripped from the UK (maybe with the exception of SYD?). A number of other items are also loaded in the UK to service the return flight (notably J amenities, breakfast cereals, sauces, etc.).

Basically, on the outbound they are carrying a lot of weight in terms of round-tripped items for the return flight.

Surely it's more economical and greener to bulk surface freight these items to the downline flight kitchens (or source locally, where available), where they are then used to supply the inbound flights to the UK.

That would get rid of this ridiculous situation where crew have to 'ration' J cabin service items and try and decide how much to leave for the inbound.

Of all the large, longhaul airlines I've flown, VS are the only one who seem to practice this weird 'charter flight' mentality.

AC, SQ, NZ, UA, BA, LH, GF, SA, all seem to be capable of replenishing their bars downline on longhaul operations, so why not VS? (Round tripping on short haul is common and normal practice.)

Not round-tripping means that all the available space for service items on the aircraft is available to items for *that* sector.

Mike
#456641 by slinky09
11 Oct 2008, 11:24
Originally posted by HighFlyer
Claire, that change happened some time ago. It was indeed Champagne in PE but now only sparkling wine, and not particularly nice sparkling wine at that.

Thanks,
Sarah


I thought this changed back again after complaints ... clearly not?
#456642 by Howard Long
11 Oct 2008, 11:39
As for BYOB, nope, not allowed.

Howard has been known to take the odd bottle of Ch‰teau d'Yquem onboard SQ[;)]


Yes, I've BYO'd on VS, SQ and AA.

The written rules vary slightly between regulators and airlines, and sometimes it's that the pax may only consume alcohol served by the crew.

However, the reality is that it's a tricky one, and on the occasions I've done it I've always deliberately sent a very clear message that I completely understand and will respect a 'No', although I've yet to be refused.

On AA, the FA had to ask the Captain, who happened to be a wine lover and was delighted someone had brought on board a 1990 Yquem. On the return flight coincidentally I had the same cabin crew and before I'd even sat down they asked me if I needed any wine preparing, at which point I exposed a 1997 Pichon Baron that they looked after for me.

On VS, the FA asked up the chain, and then provided me with a corkscrew to open it myself.

On SQ, there's no fuss at all.

Since the liquid ban, I've only BYO'd dessert wines bought in duty free where carriers don't provide it themselves.

With the advent of more and more screw tops, I can see a time heppening very soon where there won't be a need to have a corkscrew on board particularly in J.

I also recommend only half bottles, where it sends a message of moderation.

13 Dec 2003 AA FC LGW-RDU Chateau d'Yquem 1990
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14 Dec 2003 AA FC RDU-LGW Chateau Pichon Longueville Baron 1997
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8 Oct 2004 VS UC LHR-IAD Chateau Suduiraut 1997
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18 Mar 2008 SQ R LHR-SIN Peller oak aged icewine
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[edited to correct typo]
#456643 by Darren Wheeler
11 Oct 2008, 11:54
[oo]

Oh Howard, you are just too good at wine. Perhaps it's time for a V-Flyer wine tasting social?
#456647 by Boo Boo
11 Oct 2008, 13:18
Originally posted by Darren Wheeler
[oo]

Oh Howard, you are just too good at wine. Perhaps it's time for a V-Flyer wine tasting social?


Beat me too it - you are amazing Howard [oo]

Boo
#456655 by Jacki
11 Oct 2008, 13:46
Howard - I have just shown my husband your photos and he says he wonders if you could give him your flight schedule and seat numbers!

I did have a strange experience flying SIA First from Sydney a couple of years ago. As I was leaving the plan at Heathrow the crew handed me a full unopened bottle of Krug - didn't complain!
#456662 by Howard Long
11 Oct 2008, 14:31
Originally posted by Jacki
I did have a strange experience flying SIA First from Sydney a couple of years ago. As I was leaving the plan at Heathrow the crew handed me a full unopened bottle of Krug - didn't complain!


My history of being handed full bottles of wine as takeaways on airlines are:

Bottle of Cordon Rouge Mumm in about 1998 in F on Ansett SYD-MEL: in those days they had a three class cabin on this 90 minute hop. I'd already polished off an entire bottle on board during the short flight - in the end they handed over the opened bottle to stash in the seat pocket so I could continue drinking during the final descent and taxiing to the gate. The flight was full of business types on their way to meetings, except for me and my then GF on holiday. I was the only pax drinking, the GF was driving. [}:)] They took pity on the GF having to carry me off, and handed her a full bottle as compensation. But it was me who drank it later...

Bottle of 1988 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne on my birthday on Concorde in 2003.

Bottle of Primitivo di Manduria, Accademia dei Racemi dessert wine on board Delta LGW-CVG in 2003.

H
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