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#257979 by locutus
05 Feb 2009, 14:50
You'll now get charged 30 if you can't fit your duty free in your one piece of carry on...

Link

I wonder if they'll start weighing bags at the gate to charge for that too.
#707287 by Darren Wheeler
05 Feb 2009, 15:02
Yet another reason to avoid the O'Leary Rip-off Express
#707294 by Pete
05 Feb 2009, 15:47
Much as I loath MOL, I have to agree with his enforcement of one piece of hand luggage. Since the introduction of the charge for first or second hold baggage on legacy airlines like AA, the scrum in the cabin has become a joke. People lugging as much carry-on as they can sneak past (frankly un-caring) agents, using up more than their fair share of the overhead space and putting the risk of overweight bags (literally) on someone else's head. There was always a bit of an issue with those too selfish to wait at the carousel taking extra space in the overheads; now the airlines are positively encouraging people to do it. Perhaps this move by O'Leary isn't such a dumb move afterall. (And I'd never thought I'd see myself type those words...)
#707300 by RichardMannion
05 Feb 2009, 16:23
The caption under the photo says it all:

'Michael O'Leary, the Ryanair chief executive, has claimed extra charges ultimately lead to lower fares.'

What is next to be charged for?
- You actually wanted a seat?
- You wanted oxygen?
- You want to use the toilet?
- You need toilet paper and water?
#707301 by locutus
05 Feb 2009, 16:26
Pete, I agree, people should be forced to limit their carry on, but when you can buy a large Toblerone at Duty free, there's no way it can fit in the carry on. [:?]
#707306 by Kraken
05 Feb 2009, 17:01
I agree with Ryanair on this one - I have seen more than a few people take the p1ss with carry-ons on Ryanair flights.

The 'trick' seems to be to do online check-in, so your first interaction with any Ryanair (or their handling agents) employee is at the boarding gate. If you turn up with a carry-on that is a bit too big or too heavy, they generally used to let people board, so as not to delay the flight. Before the liquid restrictions came into force, I remember a lady at Luton who turned up at the gate with six carrier bags of M&S food. They let her board the flight so as not to delay it.

I wonder if common sense will prevail when someone has their regulation sized carry on + a newspaper in a WH Smith carrier bag....

James
#707308 by pjh
05 Feb 2009, 17:13
quote:Originally posted by Kraken
I agree with Ryanair on this one - I have seen more than a few people take the p1ss with carry-ons on Ryanair flights.

The 'trick' seems to be to do online check-in, so your first interaction with any Ryanair (or their handling agents) employee is at the boarding gate. If you turn up with a carry-on that is a bit too big or too heavy, they generally used to let people board, so as not to delay the flight. Before the liquid restrictions came into force, I remember a lady at Luton who turned up at the gate with six carrier bags of M&S food. They let her board the flight so as not to delay it.


I've never seen a gate agent take issue with any passenger carrying more than one piece of hand luggage. I've seen challenges at check in and security, so I do wonder how they got through.
#707314 by ukcobra
05 Feb 2009, 18:17
I did get talked to on a United Flight recently, when a very observent CC spotted my Carry on bag was an inch or two over regulation size. They relented when I was connecting in DC for a UK Virgin flight, and I said it had to be with me in the Lounge.

A agree that a lot of US travelers take advantage of the lack of enforcement, and that it is very frustrating when you run out of space. If I take 2 on board, in conjuction with checked baggage, I always put one under the seat in front of me should luggage space be at a premium.

Mark
#708901 by jafleming
27 Feb 2009, 12:22
quote:Originally posted by RichardMannion
The caption under the photo says it all:

'Michael O'Leary, the Ryanair chief executive, has claimed extra charges ultimately lead to lower fares.'

What is next to be charged for?
- You actually wanted a seat?
- You wanted oxygen?
- You want to use the toilet?
- You need toilet paper and water?



- You want to use the toilet? Could be 1 soon!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7914193.stm
#708903 by GrahamN
27 Feb 2009, 13:23
That is so very typical of him!

G.
#708904 by Kraken
27 Feb 2009, 13:39
It'll start off with a flat 1 charge for using the toilet, then over time it will be developed into different charges depending that you wish to do in the toilet. 1 for a pee, 2 for a 'no 2', 20 for mile-high club. Hold on, we're giving MO'L ideas here...

James
#708905 by Bazz
27 Feb 2009, 13:41
At least the queues (lines) will be shorter [;)]
#708915 by iforres1
27 Feb 2009, 15:36
Great PR from MOL. Everyone is talking about what he will charge for next, but rest assured they will still fly if the price is right. I personally have no quibble with what FR offers as you pay( and not always the cheapest either) for what you get and I have experienced better service on FR than on BA.

Iain
#708916 by pjh
27 Feb 2009, 15:40
quote:Originally posted by Kraken
It'll start off with a flat 1 charge for using the toilet, then over time it will be developed into different charges depending that you wish to do in the toilet. 1 for a pee, 2 for a 'no 2', 20 for mile-high club. Hold on, we're giving MO'L ideas here...


Mmm. I thought that privately operated cafes, restaurants and pubs serving food and drink must, by law, provide toilet facilities that are free of charge to customers. Could be argued that as Ryanair serve food and drink they fall under the same provision...

Or are we falling for another M'OL grab for publicity.

Paul
#708917 by fozzyo
27 Feb 2009, 15:56
quote:Originally posted by pjh
Or are we falling for another M'OL grab for publicity.


Cheap publicity to me. Can't see how this can be practically enforced ... I often fly with no money or change. Hell I try to have as little change in my pockets at all times. So what happens mid flight I need a loo visit and have no coins?

Mat
#708921 by RichardMannion
27 Feb 2009, 16:22
Well I'm sure if you urintated in the cabin, you'd be doing them a favour on spending on scents. Though being totally rude and elitist, one can imagine it may actually make the planes smell better given the clientelle it attracts.
#709375 by kered
05 Mar 2009, 21:17
[oo]

Where's that ROTFLMAO emoticon when I need it [^]
#709870 by Sealink
12 Mar 2009, 00:01
Ryanair are introducing a new charge - for online check-in, which is currently free.
You see, once they abolish airport check-in, then online check-in will become the norm, and suddenly will er, cost them more than it does now. So that's another 5 per person per ticket. I'm sure the Ryanair bubble is going to burst.
#709875 by RichardMannion
12 Mar 2009, 00:28
When people start realising that they are being nickel and dimed to death, and stop booking, hopefully the bubble will burst. MOL will still have his huge personal fortune though.
#709945 by RichardMannion
12 Mar 2009, 23:57
Oh now there is an offer!

Fee to smoke onboard? That would really bring in the $$$'s
#709947 by Darren Wheeler
13 Mar 2009, 00:02
Optional fee to use seats. All pax must be seated for take-off and landing.
#709949 by willd
13 Mar 2009, 00:03
quote:Originally posted by RichardMannion
When people start realising that they are being nickel and dimed to death, and stop booking, hopefully the bubble will burst. MOL will still have his huge personal fortune though.


You would think hey but I can tell you from personal experience that to some FR still appeals.

I am currently having to tell the GF Mother that a 5 hour car journey from TXL to Poznan in Poland is better than the direct FR STN-POZ service! It is an uphill battle and one I fear I will be loosing in the next week or so. I just cannot beat FR on the price (with all the bloody stupid extras like 5 for breathing) and the convenience.

And that is where FR do well. Its not getting people on their services such as MAD-STN, its the services to small cities that are not served by anyone else (such as Poznan). There is no other choice into the airport (other than a 6 hour layover in FRA) or flying Wizz from LTN at worse times (which offers an equally as bad service as FR). It is these convenient services (which are never the ones with the 1 offers) to destinations like POZ, Tampere et al that make FR the dosh.

So I know fear that my plan of a couple of days in Berlin plus a wee jaunt across to Poznan for a wedding (all earning miles of course) will be replaced by something worse than my idea of airline hell, about 9 endless hours doing nothing in two god awful airports and a grand total of 20 hours in Poland (all not earning miles). Why on earth did BA end thier direct service to Poznan last October?
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