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#7517 by virgin is the best
22 Aug 2005, 23:34
I just seen a post on another site and thought I would ask the same thing on here.

What do you perfer Male or Female crew and why?

What do you think of guys that are crew?

Who does the Job suit the best?

Who do you think would cope best in an emergency situation?
#74089 by Decker
23 Aug 2005, 00:06
Wow - weird question. A person's gender has no bearing on the standard of service I am likely to receive only on who I am going to find more attractive and that is not a qualifier when choosing a carrier!
#74090 by mitchja
23 Aug 2005, 00:11
Seems a bit of a strange question to me personally

No preference in either male or female crew in all respects.

Gender doesn't come into the VS cabin crew equation as far as I'm concerned.

Regards
#74091 by seany
23 Aug 2005, 00:12
I agree, I don't think you can say one is better than the other so you can't really answer the question.
#74092 by mcuth
23 Aug 2005, 00:36
Originally posted by virgin is the best
I just seen a post on another site and thought I would ask the same thing on here.

What do you perfer Male or Female crew and why?

What do you think of guys that are crew?

Who does the Job suit the best?

Who do you think would cope best in an emergency situation?


Sorry to be boring, but I'll second what Decker, James & Sean have said above. I find it a very strange question indeed - I have faith that each member of cabin crew is trained to the same high service & safety standards - what gender they are is immaterial (whether one's more pleasing on the eye or not).

Cheers

Michael
#74105 by AlanA
23 Aug 2005, 09:21
Oh come on you PC lot!:D
Stop coming up with the platitudes and be honest.
Of course most people have a preferance to what gender and the look of the crew.
Go to many forums and there are comments about the age of certain crew members on other airlines, the same way as it was always said that Branson picked the prettiest girls for crew.

Its the same thing that, yes, in the real world, there is a certain perception aboyut the type of man who becomes cabin crew and on PPRune there is a lot of confirmation that a particular sexuality goes for the job.

It may not be the major reason you go with an airline, but it does seem to have a bearing on many people's perception of the airline that crew fly for.
#74115 by Decker
23 Aug 2005, 10:07
Originally posted by AlanA
Oh come on you PC lot!:D

there is a certain perception aboyut the type of man who becomes cabin crew and on PPRune there is a lot of confirmation that a particular sexuality goes for the job.



Errm given the PC comment you seem to be mincing your words a bit here Alan [}:)]. I think you're saying that a lot of male cabin crew are gay?
#74117 by AlanA
23 Aug 2005, 10:12
""mincing" my words :D
#74119 by Littlejohn
23 Aug 2005, 10:15
No doubt AlanA will think me PC too, and I have to say I am relishing the prospect: I don't think anyone has ever thought of me as PC. Indeed I am more often accused of having Victorian ethics and no tact! But when it comes to which sex of staff, frankly I don't give a damn. It is ability to do the job with a smile and to give great service without being stuffy which matters to me. I would go further, why are there so few male IFBT - actually are there any male IFBT? Because it is more "personal" than the rest of cabin crew's duties I think I would prefer a male (all be it marginally).

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#74122 by Decker
23 Aug 2005, 10:39
I so nearly left it as just "mincing a bit here Alan"...

It'll either be a fact or not - perception is irrelevant :). I suspect that it is a lifestyle choice, and that some occupations support some lifestyles better than others. So for example a mother of three young children whose husband worked shifts at a factory would be less likely to be an FSM than a single person or an older married person whose children have left home. This is not to say that the former person could not do the job, simply a reflection on the demands placed upon crew.

So a person who values lifestyle over rapid career development is more likely to choose crewing.

Just my two cents....
#74123 by fozzyo
23 Aug 2005, 10:41
Personally I don't have a preference, it has been said on here many times that Virgin employ some of the best crews in the air and that is what is important to me. Virgin wants crew that are fun, outgoing, friendly and flirty. And yes having a boy or girl flirt with you or for you to flirt with at 30,000ft is fantatsic fun! I'm an equal opportunities flirt so quite happy either way.

Virgin is popular with the gays for the same reason Disney is, it is a great brand to work for (i haven't worked for VA so can't comment on how they are to work for as a company). And one that has always supported gay its staff. Something that can be quite important when choosing who to spend most of your time awake with each week.

Originally posted by sailor99
I would go further, why are there so few male IFBT - actually are there any male IFBT? Because it is more "personal" than the rest of cabin crew's duties I think I would prefer a male (all be it marginally).


This is an interesting question, apparently there was once one male IFBT. But I have to say it can be bloody hard work as a male beauty therapist - it is an industry that is massively dominated by the girls, and that can make it hard for us boys. But those who have a passion for it usually do it very well and can be very successful - once you convince clients its ok to have your nails done, legs waxed, eyebrows plucked and face facialed by a boy the clients often love it!

Foz xxx
#74125 by easygoingeezer
23 Aug 2005, 10:52
Ahhh, so male staff are more likely to be gay huh,
well its time I booked another flight, lol.

Gay people are usually good in "people" orientated jobs, we are smart, well groomed blokes, nice hair, perfect nails and shiny shoes,
( just a note to you hettie guys..thats what the ladies like;) )

We tend to be more fun and approachable by the ladies which gives their husbands a break, and we can spot a designer handbag or pair of channel or cartier sunglasses or gucci shoes from a hundred paces.

Gay people are usually pretty good at dealing with awkward people, cause we can put them in their place with humour rather than anger.

some of us are quite hunky too:D
#74142 by virgin is the best
23 Aug 2005, 12:20
Originally posted by sailor99
No doubt AlanA will think me PC too, and I have to say I am relishing the prospect: I don't think anyone has ever thought of me as PC. Indeed I am more often accused of having Victorian ethics and no tact! But when it comes to which sex of staff, frankly I don't give a damn. It is ability to do the job with a smile and to give great service without being stuffy which matters to me. I would go further, why are there so few male IFBT - actually are there any male IFBT? Because it is more "personal" than the rest of cabin crew's duties I think I would prefer a male (all be it marginally).

99

We used to have a male IFBT but he left. He was not popular with male customers.
#74146 by Jonathan
23 Aug 2005, 12:31
As long as they're friendly and attentive I really dont care.
They both train to the same standard and do the same exams etc so both should be equally capable of performing their role in any situation..
You could argue that extraverted personalities are better for the role, and a lot of male crew are gay..but you could say the same about hairdressers too!

I dont think sexually affects the role, unlike personality which is far more important (to have one that is!)
#74147 by fozzyo
23 Aug 2005, 12:47
Originally posted by virgin is the best
We used to have a male IFBT but he left. He was not popular with male customers.


This is the problem they face, and us male Massage Therapists face. A fair number of guys don't like being touched by a male therapist - for one reason or another they aren't comfortable with it. Also some women don't like being treatment by a boy either, some have had a bad experience and that has put them off us for life. Others just prefer women. [:(]

The fact there is only one therapist on-board makes it harder, it can be hard work being politely told no the client will give it a miss today repeatedly. I know therapists where clients have turned up to a spa and when they found out it was a male therapist have left without giving them a chance - that can hurt. Its a real shame.

Can you tell this is one of my big passions in life?

Foz xxx
#74148 by seany
23 Aug 2005, 13:03
A bit off topic here, I find it strange that on my last four flights (in UC) the 4 or 5 members of crew were all the same gender. On my last flight I had all male crew and on the 3 previous flights I had all female crew. Now that I think about it, that seems a bit strange, it didn't bother me at all but I would have thaught the crew gender would be mixed in all classes but it seems that isn't a fixed rule for VS.
#74149 by jilly
23 Aug 2005, 13:23
Regarding the flight crew I don't care whether they are male or female as long as they treat me well and provide excellent service. A couple of years ago flying to Antigua I was very ill on the outward flight and the crew member who looked after me was male, he was very helpful but I could see some ladies preferring female assistance in such circumstances. Therefore a mix of crew is always the best option.

I find the topic facinating especially with regarding beauty treatments. Personally I would rather have treatments from men (hair or beauty) and this goes at home or travelling. You get a firmer massage from a man and when he cuts your hair he really wants you to look your best. I once had a female hairdresser who was asked to cut my hair by 2" - she took off at least 4" of it - I put it down to jealousy of my waist length hair.

As a separate note I just asked my 16 year old son if he would be happy to have a massage from a male beautician. His answer was a downright NO. 16 year olds are not PC but I guess you get an honest answer. Must say I was a little disappointed with his response but he's entitled to his opinion.

Jilly
#74166 by Nottingham Nick
23 Aug 2005, 16:08
I know it doesn't make for great debating, but I am going to go with the vast majority and cast a firm "don't mind" vote.

Taking up AlanA's point, I don't think this is being PC, or in any way a cop out. It is more to do with the fact that when listing the qualities I would look for a in a good crew member, efficiency, knowledge, reliability and good communication skills come way higher that any issues concerning gender or sexuality.

Nick
#74167 by easygoingeezer
23 Aug 2005, 16:21
yes Nick those things come high in my estimations too, but a big hunky gay one is an added bonus for me, lol.
#74172 by onionz
23 Aug 2005, 16:31
After some careful deliberation, I'm siding with AlanA on this one. Some of the replies i've read seem a bit too much like sitting-on-the-fence to me.

From my casual observations, male and female crew seem equally capable of performing their duties, and I would trust them equally with my safety.

So, all other things being equal, why is it wrong to prefer female hospitality? :D;)
#74176 by onionz
23 Aug 2005, 16:39
Originally posted by easygoingeezer
each to their own:D


Now, that I agree on! :)[y]
#74178 by Littlejohn
23 Aug 2005, 16:49
There's nothing wrong with prefering the company of one sex or the other Onionz. I disagree about other posts being on the fence though. Just as there is nothing wrong with having a preference, there is also nothing wrong with not having a preference.

There are a lot of thing that I would prefer to do with women rather than men. It's just that the experience of spending time in a metal tube with a dehydrated atmosphere, no fags and stugging to sleep is not one that moves me to have a preference one way or another.

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#74184 by Littlejohn
23 Aug 2005, 17:00
In the interests of clarity I was using the word with its UK meaning - ie " No Cigarettes". I had not considered the alternative definition.

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