#797696 by Vegascrazy
15 Dec 2011, 19:08
The main reason for this trip was to visit Steve’s brother who relocated to San Diego a year or so ago. We are fortunate to be on listed on our Dallas based friend Simon’s ‘D3’ staff travel programme meaning we can travel standby on American Airlines and simply pay the non-revenue cost according to cabin flown in. Obviously the ‘catch’ with this system is the standby element!

As the days drew closer to our outbound travel date Simon decided we would be better off going via Chicago than via Dallas because the loads in F & J were lighter and, given we were after a premium cabin, we were happy to travel via any route that secured us F or J on the trans-Atlantic sector. The other relatively minor issue was that the loads on the domestic ORD-SAN leg were such that even getting an economy seat was looking dodgy. We subsequently learned that there was major conference in San Diego that weekend, hence the packed flights! No worries though, we were happy to fly into SNA (John Wayne Orange County) instead since that was only an hour’s drive away from Jon’s house in San Diego. Incidentally we could have taken the direct midday AA flight LHR-LAX but that would have got us to LAX at such a time that the drive from there to San Diego would have taken hours, so we were quite content with the SNA option.

The day before we travelled Simon emailed us our boarding passes, well in fact they were ‘Priority Verification Passes’ which hold good for getting through security. They’re essentially boarding passes, just without a seat allocation.
We’d booked Purple Parking at Heathrow and, after an extremely quick drive from our home in Sussex up to Heathrow we called by McDonalds on the Bath Road to kill some time rather than faff about phoning Purple Parking to bring forward our ‘meet & greet’ slot. Onward to T3 we went where a smartly dressed, purple clad rep was there to meet us and whisk the car away. There was no queue at AA bag drop where our cases were tagged to SNA via ORD and receipts issued.

No queue at security and once through we headed straight to the No. 1 Lounge courtesy of our Amex Platinum provided Priority Passes. This was our first time in the T3 No. 1 Lounge having only frequented the Gatwick North one previously. The Gatwick one we felt was the bees knees…well the T3 one is even better! Not a VS Clubhouse by any means but absolutely a lovely haven to while away the time in prior to a flight. We had eggs benedict in the waiter served restaurant area and then settled down on the leather sofas for bloody marys. The wireless worked faultlessly and all in all we had a great couple of hours here.

Whilst in the No. 1 lounge, through a combination of up to the second Expert Flyer searches and ‘live’ WhatsApp updates from Simon, we resigned ourselves to ending up in J as opposed to F. This was because a load of pax in J were moved forward due to their AA points status. Over a period of an hour in the No. 1 Lounge we saw the seven spare seats in F dwindle down to three. We also knew that there were a couple of AA employees on ‘D1’s who get priority over us lowly D3’s. Thus they would have two of those three spare seats in F. The good news was that we knew we’d be good for seats in J. We also knew that, should we somehow fail to secure F or J, we’d be OK in Economy as it was only booked to 88 out of 194 so essentially ‘wide open’! Before we knew it the AA47 was showing as boarding at Gate 34 so off we trundled.

Our information was all correct and the gate agent explained that we could either have a seat in F and J or be both together in J. We went for the latter although must admit we were tempted to toss a coin and for one of us to go in F! Our Priority Verification passes were swapped for Boarding Passes, seats 9E & 9G, the middle & right of the first (bulkhead) centre row of seats in J. At the point we were also issued with our Priority Verification Pass for the ORD-SNA sector and had it explained to us that our luggage would go on this flight regardless of whether or not we got on! No surprises there as it’s happened to us before flying standby in the USA, ie. cases go but you don’t. Clearly a ‘bag sans pax’ scenario is strictly forbidden in Europe so I’m somewhat astonished that this practice is commonplace in the States. It’s not just the security issue with the flight itself but the fact that your luggage end up on the floor of the baggage hall (that being domestic is open to Joe Public!) unattended for hours until you eventually make it there! Anyway, rant over.

Boarding was all very civilised, no scrum at the gate – indeed nobody even got up to form a queue as normally happens when passengers in a gate area reckon the agent is just about to call people forward! Business & First boarded first so up we got & on we went. We were welcomed by name as we found our seats and sorted out our stuff. Business Class amenity kits were in the one of the various stowage cubby holes in front of us. They contained Dermalogica lip balm, active moist & hand/nail treatment as well as the usual socks, eye mask & toothbush/paste.

AA’s 777 J cabin has 37 seats in a 2-3-2 layout, all shell style so no issue with people reclining in to you. The seats were of the ‘nearly’ lie flat type which I personally quite like as feel less stuffy & enclosed at the pillow end when sleeping. The seat was multi-adjustable in many directions, I think from memory more adjustable than VS. There was a laptop power port too. Where I feel AA let themselves down was in the ‘greyness’ of the cabin interior, nothing to write home about! It was absolutely clean and damage free though and everything functioned properly. Each seat’s stowage area also had a duvet provided along with pillow and slippers.

The IFE was switched on from the moment we boarded until the plane parked at ORD. The screens looked similar in size to VS and were touch screen. I watched The Hangover 2 later in the flight – very funny film! The provided Bose noise cancelling headphones were great.

The flight attendants introduced themselves to us, one covering my aisle and another covering the other aisle and centre seat of three, thus we were each taken care of by different FA’s through the flight. This wasn’t an issue as everything happened at the same time with meals & drinks. Menus were handed out at the same time as we were offered pre-flight Champagne, today’s choices were as follows:-

To Start: Warm mixed nuts

Appetizer: Shrimp confit & crab salad accompanies by vegetable brunoise & mixed greens

Salad: Fresh seasonal greens and an assortment of fresh vegetables offered with Greek vinaigrette or premium extra virgin olive oil and balsamic vinegar

Bread basket: Assorted gourmet breads

Main Course: Grilled fillet of beef enhanced by a red wine & shallot sauce, offered with haricots verts and mustard mashed potatoes

Breast of chicken flavoured with coriander and lime, served with pumpkin sauce, tomato couscous and stir-fried vegetables

Grilled salmon topped with an onion pine nut confit, accompanied by spinach mashed potatoes, sautéed peppers and zucchini

Lasagna with eggplant, root vegetables, bell ,peppers, zucchini, tomatoes and béchamel sauce topped with grated Italian cheese, arugula, sweet herbs and pesto.

Dessert: Chocolate fudge brownie ice cream

Fruit & Cheese: A selection of gourmet cheeses offered with fresh seasonal fruit and assorted crackers

The menu also explained the ‘Dine Upon Request’ option: You choose one of the featured entrees to be served with an appetizer and dessert, presented all at once, at any time you wish.

The Champagne was Collet Brut and there was a choice of three reds and three whites along with dessert wine and vintage Port.
We both enjoyed our meals, I’d opted for the chicken and Steve the salmon. What intrigued me was that people ordering the steak were asked how they’d like it done and people were ordering rare, medium…etc. I’d always figured you couldn’t have a rare steak served up on a flight but the chap sitting next to Steve most certainly did and said it was delicious!

All in all this was a good flight, by no means the ‘fun’ VS experience…yes we did miss the social bar time! We found the service to be more ‘formal’ than VS but that was OK. The crew were all on average much older than a typical VS crew, I reckon all the flight attendants on board were in their fifties, all clearly with decades of experience behind them.

We arrived at ORD 5 mins early at 4pm, in plenty of time for our 6.40pm connection to SNA. J pax disembarked after F and we soon made it through to immigration where the queue was not too long but we still waited for around 40 mins. I’d noticed all the people in front of us were having prints of both palms and both thumbs but we each only had one palm done with a processing time of what must have been less than 30 secs!
Bags were on belt, through customs and bags re-deposited on the transfer belt.

We got down to the next gate where our names were already on the screen showing priority order of standby pax, we were listed as 8 & 9. There was another screen showing all the upgrade requests, around 15 people listed all requesting miles upgrades to First. We’d been told by Simon to not expect First Class on this sector since it would be full to the brim with folk on miles upgrades!

To cut a long story short we ended up sitting separately each in the middle seat of three on a clapped out 757. It had to be air started on stand as the APU wasn't working. None of the reading lights worked and the old fashioned 'central monitor' video system failed to work too meaning that those pax who had purchased headsets had their money refunded. The flight was packed – I think around 4 spare seats. Leg room was good though and we both managed to sleep on this sector.

Four hours later we landed on time at John Wayne Orange County at 9pm. Bags already on belt and over to Hertz desk where there was a sign directing Club Gold customers straight to the parking garage over the road. We have Club Gold thank to Amex Platinum and this was the first time we’d booked car hire through Hertz having typically used Dollar or Alamo in the last. When we got to the Hertz parking area there was a large digital board with a load of names and parking bay numbers and there was my name listed! I asked the girl at the counter if we need to give her anything and she simply said no, go get in the car and drive off…..which is exactly what we did! No credit card check, nothing other than showing the guard at the exit the rental agreement (which was hanging on the rear view mirror) and driving license. From getting off the plane to exiting the airport in our rented Toyota Camry (£129 for nine days all in!) must have taken no more than 15 mins, incredible!
One hour and 10 mins later we were at Jon’s in San Diego where we spent 5 fun filled days before heading for the desert and Palm Springs where I’m now writing this TR. For our return journey we decided not to risk standby as the loads this weekend are looking decidedly ‘cosy’! Instead we’ve booked a one way Premium Economy on Air New Zealand! The flight came in nearly £400 each less than VS PE on the same day, we also get to sample the new 2-2-2- ‘Space Seats’ on ANZ! Watch this space for the next trip report!
#797697 by slinky09
15 Dec 2011, 19:50
Firstly, enjoy Palm Springs - where are you staying?

Sounds a great experience, I always wondered how these standbyes worked when you're friends of staff, I enjoyed the detail.

Am in agreement about the bland pale blue and grey AA interiors, and like you an amazed (and have enjoyed previously) that American carriers can cook a medium rare steak actually quite well. One thing I like on AA is that the IFE has a classic film selection, I wish VS did too.

The leg to SNA sounds dire, but sadly that's the truth of legacy carriers in the US in Y nowadays.

Very keen to hear about your return on the new NZ PE. Pictures too please?
#797698 by tontybear
15 Dec 2011, 19:55
Great TR James.
#797703 by buns
15 Dec 2011, 22:38
James

Thanks for an interesting TR - especailly the bit as you checked of the available seats ;)

Your opinion of the No1 Lounge is greatly aprreciated as this may be the rest bite for Mrs buns and myself in times to come :(

Hope you are in enjoying the sunshine in California

buns
#797714 by iforres1
16 Dec 2011, 08:05
Great TR, really enjoyed the detail. I see the AA adverts on TV and I am always intriged if the service is up to what they advertise. Seems it is.

Can't wait for the ANZ TR.

Iain
#797719 by Concorde RIP
16 Dec 2011, 10:47
Really informative - thanks for posting. Sounds like AA transatlantic is a different product from #US domestic, and pretty good.

Like others, I really look forward to your return TR on ANZ...
#797734 by Darren Wheeler
16 Dec 2011, 14:32
Vegascrazy wrote:The crew were all on average much older than a typical VS crew, I reckon all the flight attendants on board were in their fifties, all clearly with decades of experience behind them.


Know what you mean. It's like being served by your gran.
#797753 by honey lamb
16 Dec 2011, 18:15
Darren Wheeler wrote:
Vegascrazy wrote:The crew were all on average much older than a typical VS crew, I reckon all the flight attendants on board were in their fifties, all clearly with decades of experience behind them.


Know what you mean. It's like being served by your gran.

Hmmm! Maybe I could apply to be cabin crew with them but they might turn me down as being too young!
#797819 by tontybear
17 Dec 2011, 23:27
honey lamb wrote:
Darren Wheeler wrote:
Vegascrazy wrote:The crew were all on average much older than a typical VS crew, I reckon all the flight attendants on board were in their fifties, all clearly with decades of experience behind them.


Know what you mean. It's like being served by your gran.

Hmmm! Maybe I could apply to be cabin crew with them but they might turn me down as being too young!


And for not being grumpy as well !
#797820 by pjh
17 Dec 2011, 23:29
Excellent TR thanks. The rare times I've flown US carrier international business I've found them very consistent and pleasant experiences in the air. My experiences in the lounges ("two drink maximum") and in economy have been way below par, however, to the extent that a business trip to the US (always economy, always US carrier) is something to be avoided in our company.

Vegascrazy wrote:Bags already on belt and over to Hertz desk where there was a sign directing Club Gold customers straight to the parking garage over the road. We have Club Gold thank to Amex Platinum and this was the first time we’d booked car hire through Hertz having typically used Dollar or Alamo in the last. When we got to the Hertz parking area there was a large digital board with a load of names and parking bay numbers and there was my name listed! I asked the girl at the counter if we need to give her anything and she simply said no, go get in the car and drive off…..which is exactly what we did! No credit card check, nothing other than showing the guard at the exit the rental agreement (which was hanging on the rear view mirror) and driving license. From getting off the plane to exiting the airport in our rented Toyota Camry (£129 for nine days all in!) must have taken no more than 15 mins, incredible!


Love the Hertz Gold experience.Through work I have experienced both the Hertz and Avis offerings in this space, and the Hertz is so much smoother....
#797823 by Petmadness
18 Dec 2011, 09:16
Thoroughly enjoyable and informative TR y) gave me an insight to how the standby system works as my wife's niece has just started work for the dark side and you never know ^)

The Amex Plat benefits seem to be worth the fee, so think I should get in gear and apply unless anyone thinks its not worth it!?

Thanks for the education on so many topics |:)
#797826 by pjh
18 Dec 2011, 10:44
Petmadness wrote:The Amex Plat benefits seem to be worth the fee, so think I should get in gear and apply unless anyone thinks its not worth it!?


If you do, get someone with a card already to recommend you as it's worth 22k points to them... :w
#797927 by MarkedMan
21 Dec 2011, 01:13
Thanks for the TR, a good reflection of both the non-rev standby process, and the difference between flying a US carrier internally and internationally.

On AA, Exec Plat get complimentary upgrades to F, meaning they just get added to the upgrade list five days out regardless (and have higher priority than any other FF category at that point), and all other elites can apply for upgrades with 500 mile coupons as well as with miles, of course. So the likelihood of a non-rev ending up in F on any single aisle plane from ORD or DFW to any major metro area unless it's Saturday or Sunday is basically zero, and even on those days it's tough. You usually have to fly to places like LAS or MCO, where most traffic is of the leisurely kind. AA planes make UA look neat, although AA food is a bit better, IMO quite competitive with European offerings, if not quite SQ or the like.

Now that they've filed for Chapter 11, there's a good deal of strife going on around how they will survive, but it's a decent product and if I didn't have to do so much SFO-SAN or DEN, for which they have no real offering, I'd seriously consider switching to them. They have a load of new planes coming on line (especially need to replace the MD80s), even if not a load of new flight attendants ):
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