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Tubelad, it seems like youve picked the wrong airline to fly with if you want a 'buffet style service'.
VS is an airline with flair, which is what it was originally set up to do so.
If your choosing VS because of its younger fleet, then your in the wrong place. BA do actually have newer planes than VS, infact the A340-300's and some of the 747-400s operated by VS are getting on in years.
You seem to make it out like VS is the only other option to fly on routes with. I am pretty sure that that is NOT the case. There will always be more choice than VS or BA on a route. Look at the JFK route for example, you can choose AA, BA, UA, VS, Kuwait Airlines or Air India.
Bottom line is, no one is tying you up and forcing to fly VS.
Tell them your woes, they have a comment section, let them know directly. After youve done that return here and appologise for wasting all the mods time on here.

Kev.

me thinks someone didn't get their M&Ms, lol

Oddly there's is one thing I sort of agree with TLad ... as a nervous flyer I am doubly nervous when flying with an airline with older planes. AA's MD80s for example are old, and we all now see a series of incidents with 737-200s ... not to say that BA, VS or any other decent airline should be considered in the same light. Thing is, if TLad has so many miles from flying PE or Econ only then he (?) has a viewpoint based on experience - but to TLad yourself this should be expressed with civility and measured criticism in a way we all expect.

As to the buffet in flight, nice one ... fly with AA across the pond and you'll think VS is like a Carling lager buffet .

Just my perosnal oppinion tubelad but i think vs crew are some of the most down to earth nice cabin crew ive ever met[:p]

Airbus340

I think tubelad has left the building.

Originally posted by slinky09
Oddly there's is one thing I sort of agree with TLad ... as a nervous flyer I am doubly nervous when flying with an airline with older planes. AA's MD80s for example are old, and we all now see a series of incidents with 737-200s

I see your point, but where do you draw the line?

How old is too old?

You could easily book a VS flight, and expect a shiney new A340-600, get a tech issue, and have an older A340-300 instead. Do you refuse to fly?

I've flown on old MD80's and 737-200's and enjoyed it - but then, I have to admit that whenever I'm on a plane I always have a grin on my face - I love it[y]

For me, if you're talking safety, you're talking about reputation of the airline and country of origin. There are some country's airlines, and some individual airlines, I would personally avoid (I wont name any for fear of libel!) [:0]

Rich.

Originally posted by Richard28

Originally posted by slinky09

For me, if you're talking safety, you're talking about reputation of the airline and country of origin.

Even then you cannot be sure. I know of one aircraft that is run by a respected british company, registered in Britain, but is in fact owned by a completely different country! And it's a really tatty badly maintained aircraft too.[B)]

Originally posted by sailor99

Originally posted by Richard28

Originally posted by slinky09

For me, if you're talking safety, you're talking about reputation of the airline and country of origin.

Even then you cannot be sure. I know of one aircraft that is run by a respected british company, registered in Britain, but is in fact owned by a completely different country! And it's a really tatty badly maintained aircraft too.[B)]

oh no! I'd better have a re-think! [:w]

I'm trying to think of the airline/plane you mention, but am falling down on the "respected" part of your quote..... any clues? (PM me if you want!!)

Its funny.

As crew we always say 'ah those customers are nice' and in many cases happy crew make happy customers which make happy crew.

I think its tubelad who has such a problem and that is why he may annoy some crew!!

tubelad flies with VS because of the new planes????

Tubelad makes little sense. How old are you?? 12??

He flies VS because he has new planes and im guessing feels safer. Firstly, as was raised earlier, most of BA's planes are younger than VS's especially the 340s and 744s like FAB.

Secondly- he should have watched National Geographic on Sky tonight to realise that being on a new plane doesnt mean its safer. Anyone rememebr the BD flight that crashed on the M1- the plane was a brand new 737-400- in fact only number 16 off the production line and only days old--new planes doesnt mean always mean its safer.

most of BA's planes are younger than VS's especially the 340s and 744s like FAB.

WHAT??/ BA does not have 340's!!!

I think VS fleet IS younger than BA

[preiffer]

Indeed - didn't VS have the tagline on their planes for a while "Fly a younger fleet"?

Therefore, I'm guessing someone in VS Ops / Marketing had the impression they were younger than BA's... [:I]

Originally posted by preiffer
Indeed - didn't VS have the tagline on their planes for a while "Fly a younger fleet"?

They certainly did (don't know if they still do).

VS also have the "air-born" date for each plane underneath the Targa girl.


A bit of a questionable sales line though IMHO.

Originally posted by declansmith
most of BA's planes are younger than VS's especially the 340s and 744s like FAB.

WHAT??/ BA does not have 340's!!!

I think VS fleet IS younger than BA

Please read it carefully before yelling, he meant VS's 340s and 744s.

Just a fact, you're more likely to get in a car accident than in a plane accident, and this includes technical issues, not just crashes. I feel perfectly safe when flying, no matter how old the plane is. I know some people can't help it, but I just don't think of what might happen, if I did I don't think I could get on with my life.

[Scrooge]

Originally posted by Richard28

Originally posted by preiffer
Indeed - didn't VS have the tagline on their planes for a while "Fly a younger fleet"?

They certainly did (don't know if they still do).

VS also have the "air-born" date for each plane underneath the Targa girl.


A bit of a questionable sales line though IMHO.

For the most Part VS's fleet is younger than than BA long haul fleet..

isn't that Varga girl not targa?

Originally posted by jetwet1
isn't that Varga girl not targa?

No, I think it is Targa Girl. i think the Targa Girl is one of the extra services offered to V50's.

Sorry if i caused confusion- VS-EWR did read my post correctly.

A number of BA long haul a/c are indeed younger than VS a/c. Just look at the age of the older VS 744's and 340's.

Originally posted by jetwet1

For the most Part VS's fleet is younger than than BA long haul fleet..

isn't that Varga girl not targa?

Oops, a typo there, I did mean Varga - honest!