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#97177 by VS045
04 Feb 2006, 22:39
I'd like to see some cheesecake in J![8D]

I have no problem with the food in W (for what it's meant to be anyway), but I would like to see the presentation and deelivery of it improved. Getting rid of the foil containers would be good and maybe some extra touches, such as dark chocolate mints on the side.

Cheers,
VS045
#97182 by virgin crazy
04 Feb 2006, 23:11
do any of you konw the route which the new aircraft will take?
#97186 by VS-EWR
04 Feb 2006, 23:35
This is probably too much to ask, and maybe it's not such a good idea, but I'll mention it anyway. Maybe in addition to the water fountain and in the same area, VS could but sort of a bar type area that would allow EC and PE passengers a place for standing up and stretching away from the lavs and usual areas. The area can be curtained off so that the other passengers won't notice the gatherings.
#97207 by Richard28
05 Feb 2006, 01:19
Originally posted by VS-EWR
This is probably too much to ask, and maybe it's not such a good idea, but I'll mention it anyway. Maybe in addition to the water fountain and in the same area, VS could but sort of a bar type area that would allow EC and PE passengers a place for standing up and stretching away from the lavs and usual areas. The area can be curtained off so that the other passengers won't notice the gatherings.


The problem with that is space = revenue

I know SQ do a similar thing on their A345's (ultra long haul) but that is for a plane with Raffles and PE only (no Y class).

I guess it would knock 4 seats or so from Y class for VS to do this, multiply that by the number of A346's in the fleet, then by 365 days in a year and the average revenue by seat, and it would cost a lot of money every year - for what revenue gain?

Dont think it's gonna happen, unless there was "dead space" in the aircraft where seating could not be installed, which there isn't.
#97212 by mcmbenjamin
05 Feb 2006, 01:43
Originally posted by Richard28

I know SQ do a similar thing on their A345's (ultra long haul) but that is for a plane with Raffles and PE only (no Y class).


Well sorta Bruce. SQ's Executive Economy similar to VS's Premium Economy but is sold like a Y product. Yea the seats are in a 2-3-2 layout and have (estimate) 38 inches of legroom but are sold with the economy booking classes.

Also SQ has a pretty cool lounge area for ExEc. Oh and BTW all economy water on SQ's A345 is bottled - click here to view an image.

{mcuth: edited to tidy up page format by removing image and linking to it instead}
#97217 by Richard28
05 Feb 2006, 02:29
Originally posted by mcmbenjamin
Well sorta Bruce.

At least you refrained from calling me Sheila! ;)

Originally posted by mcmbenjamin
SQ's Executive Economy similar to VS's Premium Economy but is sold like a Y product. Yea the seats are in a 2-3-2 layout and have (estimate) 38 inches of legroom but are sold with the economy booking classes.

Also SQ has a pretty cool lounge area for ExEc. Oh and BTW all economy water on SQ's A345 is bottled - click


Fair enough, and I'd love to see it - but it still takes room, and I personally still can't see VS doing that for Y class pax.

Will be intersting to see pictures of the water fountatin feature, and if there is any "stretch leg" space around it though....
#97222 by VS-EWR
05 Feb 2006, 03:57
If only they could just put increase the size of the below deck galley, and then transform that into a lounge.
#97248 by VS045
05 Feb 2006, 11:34
Which other aircraft will see these changes also. Will the 744s get them and even the A343S?[?]

Cheers,
VS045
#97273 by mike-smashing
05 Feb 2006, 13:20
Originally posted by virgin crazy
does know the route which the new bird will fly?


It can theoretically appear on any VS route which is booked to recieve an A340-600. These are all ex-Heathrow routes.

Because the flight deck is almost identical, the pilots don't need seperate training to fly the A343 and the A346 - just a short conversion course, it could also work a trip instead of an A340-300, as it wouldn't involve any crew rescheduling. It's unlikely that it would turn out on a flight which is usually flown with a Boeing.

The fact that no-one answered you the first time probably meant that there wasn't really an answer to your question.

Can I suggest you read the FAQ before posting a question in future? "Which plane?" is the first question answered in the FAQ!

Thanks,
Mike
#97338 by declansmith
05 Feb 2006, 17:52
The aircraft can fly anywhere and you will never find it on a set route.

It may operate the same route for a few days but then will change and go somewhere else.
#97372 by stoneflyer
05 Feb 2006, 19:06
Are these the new 'Wash' and 'kash' seats or are these even newer seats?

Stoneflyer
#97384 by Richard28
05 Feb 2006, 19:27
Originally posted by stoneflyer
Are these the new 'Wash' and 'kash' seats or are these even newer seats?

Stoneflyer


These new seats replace Wash & Kash seats on the A346.
#97386 by VS045
05 Feb 2006, 19:29
No, I think the A346s already have WASH and KASH, so these are even newer seats. However, there was nothing about it on their website - none of the hype about UCS. Although I suppose it's not such a revolutionary design.

Cheers,
VS045
#97453 by VS-EWR
06 Feb 2006, 00:15
Originally posted by VS045
No, I think the A346s already have WASH and KASH, so these are even newer seats. However, there was nothing about it on their website - none of the hype about UCS. Although I suppose it's not such a revolutionary design.

Cheers,
VS045


They probably won't announce anything until they have started to roll them out on the fleet in bulk.
#97457 by mike-smashing
06 Feb 2006, 01:16
Originally posted by VS-EWR
They probably won't announce anything until they have started to roll them out on the fleet in bulk.


True, and they may even want to make sure that they "snag" them on the initial aircraft first, before announcing them.

After all, compared with the Suite, they probably aren't such an obvious change to the average traveller.

Cheers,
Mike
#97535 by Littlejohn
06 Feb 2006, 13:30
For those who have not seen it, G-VOPS has managed to bag a photo of the new PE seats on G-VWKD here.
#97536 by honey lamb
06 Feb 2006, 13:32
Thanks G-VOPS [y]
#97538 by fozzyo
06 Feb 2006, 13:41
Originally posted by stoneflyer
Those seats look awesome!


I bet the other PE pax must be getting quite jealous. hehee

Thanks G-VOPS, much appreciated.

Mat xxx
#97543 by vizbiz
06 Feb 2006, 14:09
I'd like to volunteer to test the new PE seats on my upcoming jaunt to SYD [:w] - no stopover - god knows those seats would improve the 25-27 hours in the same seat.... at least its UCS on the way back :D
#97579 by ColourPhil
06 Feb 2006, 16:10
I bet the other PE pax must be getting quite jealous. hehee[:$]
If I was one of the pax in old seats I'd even think about moving into a MIDDLE seat [y]
to try it!! Well almost.
Look G-R-E-A-T-T-T!! Like biz class of old (say 1995 ish) but leather and better!![^]
Next step improve the grub and it's presentation!
Then ditch the terrible "E" word.[:w]
#97581 by fozzyo
06 Feb 2006, 16:20
Once this gets its roll-out going, and they sort out the food (which has been mentioned is coming) then a clever marketing campaign will really help them trample all over the competition for the Enhanced Economy market. World Traveller Plus - against this, with dedicated checkin, dedicated crew, pre take-off bubbles not much of a chance really has it.

Mat xxx
#97583 by Littlejohn
06 Feb 2006, 16:30
Foz's post started me thinking. If you had the choice of New premium economy (better seat, bubbles, improved food, 38" seat pitch) and you bought access to a service air lounge (say total cost =£620) or UC (Say cost = £2500) which would you go for? For me, the PE ticket probably takes the prize, but only just. Now if you were Au and therefore had the club house thrown in, would you pay the extra £2k nearly for a flat bed and bar/limited freedom menu for 8 hours?

There may be scope for a pole here, but for the moment it's probably only a question to float.
#97584 by fozzyo
06 Feb 2006, 16:35
Originally posted by sailor99
Foz's post started me thinking. If you had the choice of New premium economy (better seat, bubbles, improved food, 38" seat pitch) and you bought access to a service air lounge (say total cost =£620) or UC (Say cost = £2500) which would you go for? For me, the PE ticket probably takes the prize, but only just. Now if you were Au and therefore had the club house thrown in, would you pay the extra £2k nearly for a flat bed and bar/limited freedom menu for 8 hours?

There may be scope for a pole here, but for the moment it's probably only a question to float.


PE - its only very occasionally with I pay cash for a UC seat.

Mat xxx
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