Originally posted by manymiles[:I][:I]
I think if there was a pole in UC that would make all the difference....
Er, I can't see any mention of seat size or pitch in PE being altered - did I miss something here? And what route is this to start on?
Originally posted by catsilversword
Er, I can't see any mention of seat size or pitch in PE being altered - did I miss something here? And what route is this to start on?
Hey CSS
Seat pitch / size in PE is not being increased - just the style of seats. It is Y that will have increased pitch.
These changes are rolled out on a a/c basis not on any particular route as VS cannot dedicate specific a/c to a single route. Of course it will be evident initially only on routes served by the 346.
Phil
Originally posted by mike-smashing
Because the flight deck is almost identical, the pilots don't need seperate training to fly the A343 and the A346 - just a short conversion course, it could also work a trip instead of an A340-300, as it wouldn't involve any crew rescheduling. It's unlikely that it would turn out on a flight which is usually flown with a Boeing.
Preumably to remind them that the -600 is a wee bit longer and tail strikes (a la IAD)will affect your no claims bonus:D
Originally posted by VS-EWR
If only they could just put increase the size of the below deck galley, and then transform that into a lounge.
The 346 has a below deck galley? Any details on it? That's news to me, and I always consider myself familar with VS birds!
-Will
Yes, the A346 has a lower deck - more information is available here (in the form of Lufhansa's setup):
Hmm - If we're talking about lower deck galleys, you might all be interested in this presentation by Andreas Baatz, Airbus from 2004
The A340-600 has two decks located above each other. The main deck in the upper part of the aircraft looks much more ÓairyÓ than in conventional wide-bodied jets thanks to re-design of the cabin furnishing. Through the integration of the lower deck for kitchen and washrooms, approx. 25 further seats can be installed. In total, there is room for almost 100 additional passengers on the A340-600.
The two decks are linked by an approx. 80 centimetre-wide staircase. Through the lowering of the upper cabin floor, even below a comfortable standing height of 1.95 metres has been reached. On the lower deck there are five wash-rooms for the Economy Class and a galley for around 14 trolleys.
An additional kitchen was installed on the lower deck. In total, around 160 passenger can be served from the lower galley. The ser-vice centre on the main deck and the galley on the lower deck are connected by an elevator.
Hmm - If we're talking about lower deck galleys, you might all be interested in this presentation by Andreas Baatz, Airbus from 2004

The headrest looks rather nice with its adjustable wings, something completely lacking in Upper Class.
The Strawb
The Strawb
Originally posted by Winglets747The 346 has a below deck galley? Any details on it? That's news to me, and I always consider myself familar with VS birds!
-Will
Although some airlines use the lower deck of the A346 for washrooms and/or galley space, at VS we use it for cargo and the crew rest area.
Some of the B742s did have a lower deck galley.
I've always been curious. What's the crew rest area like. I imagine it's just a few bunks, no natural light of course, very cramped. Would this be about right? Also how do you get to it. I understand there are some steps aft on a 747. But on the 343/346's?
Originally posted by sailor99
I've always been curious. What's the crew rest area like. I imagine it's just a few bunks, no natural light of course, very cramped. Would this be about right? Also how do you get to it. I understand there are some steps aft on a 747. But on the 343/346's?
You're right - it is very cramped with no natural light. Some of the bunks have a coffin-like similarity. On the plus side, it's relatively quiet and a sanctuary for [|)] on longer flights.
Originally posted by sailor99
I've always been curious. What's the crew rest area like. I imagine it's just a few bunks, no natural light of course, very cramped. Would this be about right? Also how do you get to it. I understand there are some steps aft on a 747. But on the 343/346's?
I think there's a hidden door that looks as though it's to a lav.
Originally posted by p17blo
Some would argue that the converted UCS is the same:D
Paul
True, but I would swap my crew rest bunk for an UCS anytime [y]
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