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#10225 by firsttimer
25 Jan 2006, 13:20
I'm sorry but I've got another (probably silly [:I]) question. Following my post yesterday about PE availability on my flight I've been onto a well known (I don't want to post in case I'm not meant to do that here?) availability tool and it is very odd. It's showing PE as being the whole of the upstairs (which it should be as it's a LGW flight), but it's showing 2/4/2 and moreorless the whole thing is booked, whereas shouldn't it be 2/2? Could this mean a change of plane, or overbooking?

Thanks.
#94484 by p17blo
25 Jan 2006, 15:55
Hi firsttimer, if you are reffering to Expertflyer (which you are welcome to mention) then I see this regularly, I just think it is a slight glitch in their system and you should ignore the middle 4. I think the problem actually comes from the fact that on the LGW/MAN Suites there are 2 rows of 2/4/2 PE on the lower deck but numbered immediately after the ones on the upper deck.

Paul
(Posted off the coast of Costa Maya via Sat Link)
#94627 by KenJohn
26 Jan 2006, 14:25
VS have/had to have 2 configurations of 747s
one has the Upper deck split into 2: Front half UCS and back half PE
one has the Upper deck all PE

However, I think they are doing away the all PE version as they introduce the UCS since you get less UCS seats downstairs compared with the old J2000 seats and therefore need a few more UCS seats upstairs.

I am not sure if VS has many, if any, all PE Upper deck configuration left. Pity!
#94632 by Scrooge
26 Jan 2006, 14:36
Originally posted by p17blo

(Posted off the coast of Costa Maya via Sat Link)



I know Costa Maya wasn't hit to badly by last years hurricanes,but I have to ask how is it?
#94824 by mcuth
27 Jan 2006, 00:10
Originally posted by KenJohn
I am not sure if VS has many, if any, all PE Upper deck configuration left. Pity!


Well, all 7 of the LGW/MAN 747s are configured with the upper deck as all PE - on the lower deck there are 18 PE seats and 14 UC suites.

Cheers

Michael
#99520 by milehigh
15 Feb 2006, 12:23
Again I agree it was prob just a system glitch as the main deck seats are continued numbering.

LGW/MAN are always UD 2 -2 W and main deck 2 -4 -2

however should a aircraft be required to go into the hanger or they have to send a LHR B744 then you would have less W seats (and the dreaded ones by the Main deck Galley) but more J seats in which case keep fingers crossed for an Upgrade !
#99633 by MarkJ
15 Feb 2006, 22:03
VS have/had to have 2 configurations of 747s
one has the Upper deck split into 2: Front half UCS and back half PE
one has the Upper deck all PE

However, I think they are doing away the all PE version as they introduce the UCS since you get less UCS seats downstairs compared with the old J2000 seats and therefore need a few more UCS seats upstairs.

I am not sure if VS has many, if any, all PE Upper deck configuration left. Pity!


Sorry KenJohn but this isnt the case.

This is old hat to many on here but maybe every now and again is worth covering - the Gatwick and Manchester 747's have 14 UCS seats in the downstairs nose section - behind this they have PE seats and its all PE seats upstairs. These planes are used on the so called "Bucket and Spade" routes to the Carribbean/Orlando and also to Las Vegas - I guess the thinking is that holiday passengers are paying for their own seats and the PE product is more affordable than UCS??

The 747's out of Heathrow have a bigger UCS section and then PE behind that with UCS and PE in the upstairs section - the thinking being that the major transatlantic routes will have more business men on company accounts ( or V-flyers:D) in the UCS seats!! Heathrow also has the 346's

I suspect that as the fleet moves to Airbus we will eventually have Airbus out of Heathrow and 747's out of Gatwick/Manchester!!!

Of course - all is clarified on the Seat Map page on this very website ( if a mod can insert a link and then pm how to do it I would be most grateful!!!)

I think that all made sense - but I am sure the wiser owls amongst you will correct me if Ive boobed!!
#99659 by Lipstick
15 Feb 2006, 23:23
^Yep it's common knowledge LHR will soon be all Airbus.

Shame really!
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